And you are missing the point anyway: Being told to do something does not absolve a person of the consequences or responsibility of their own actions.

That sounds rough. I'm sorry.

So what are they asking you to do: just touch up documentation spat out by an #LLM?

I've spent the last fortnight wrestling with documentation that was clearly written by people without any understanding of the subject matter. It's almost impenetrable, and it's a miserable experience piecing together the incomplete and fragmentary information the devs must have supplied before the tech authors were told to make the best of whatever they had. People underestimate the importance of really good documentation.

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Their incentive is the same as the workers: Don't get fired, don't become homeless; individually they're also easy to replace and have no protection against retaliation.

You do realize how close to "just following orders" that argument is, right?

@david_chisnall

I'm not interested in shaming people one bad day away from homelessness for holding their nose and muddling through, but that's not all of us. Yet.

the persons who are lobbying politics for lesser work safety laws and the politicians who pass those laws.

People with enough money to be relaxed in their daily life and not promoting solidarity but hate.

And also, imagine being bad at a task and choosing an LLM to do it for you, acquiring a dependency for life, instead of putting in the time and effort to learn how to do it, *when you have the time to do so*, like students do.

At some point we need to stop giving workers a pass on doing Bad Thing. It has become normalized to the point that it is part of the modus operandi of their employers to externalize everything and be held accountable for nothing because no one pushes back on them.

Workers are the ones who hold all the power here but by continually telling them it's not their fault, that they're just part of the system, we're also disempowering them.

If not workers, who?

IMO the OT offers systemic criticism.

There's a fundamental difference between Being Bad At and Not Being Qualified For, isn't there?

I feel the OT is more about a watchmaker Bad At watchmaking than about a watchmaker Not Qualified For gardening, thus blaming employers for bad policies instead of workers for grasping at straws.

(Besides systematically attacking middle management willingly padding their own qualifications with shiny LLM overachievement, of course. )

@david_chisnall

Right. My few experiments show that nothing an #LLM says can be trusted. You can write instructions telling it to express uncertainty rather than guessing, and then it'll hallucinate less, but not to the point where I'd want to use it for anything that mattered.

Unfortunately, a year from now, my employer's staff will be divided into two classes: people who use #AI every day and people who've lost their jobs. There's too much ageism in my trade for me ever to find another job, so my choice is LLMs or enforced early retirement.

I once knew an extremely capable and senior developer who took early retirement rather than be forced to do #agile, but I'm not rich enough to take a similar stand against AI.

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