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The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!).

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  • heathborders@hachyderm.ioH heathborders@hachyderm.io

    @ccgus it's probably using j2objc or something.

    helge@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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    @heathborders @ccgus I still wonder how sth like this can actually work, mostly considering GC

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    • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

      The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

      What in the world are they doing?

      So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

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      @ccgus Sounds like they’re using Kotlin, maybe.

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      • helge@mastodon.socialH helge@mastodon.social

        @heathborders @ccgus I still wonder how sth like this can actually work, mostly considering GC

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        @helge looks like j2objc has heuristics to implement MRR

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        • davidanson@mastodon.socialD davidanson@mastodon.social

          @ccgus “Write once, run anywhere!”

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          @DavidAnson @ccgus I think the term is “write once, suck everywhere”

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          • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

            The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

            What in the world are they doing?

            So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

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            @ccgus Why am I not surprised? Everything Google does is trash.

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            • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

              The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

              What in the world are they doing?

              So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

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              @ccgus @bugaevc cough https://developers.google.com/j2objc cough

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              • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

                The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

                What in the world are they doing?

                So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

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                @ccgus Android is now a Swift target, but it's really kind of weird how it works. I'm still trying to figure it out. It wraps Swift code around Java https://www.swift.org/blog/exploring-the-swift-sdk-for-android/

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                • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

                  The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

                  What in the world are they doing?

                  So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

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                  @ccgus I feel like everything Google does is cursed.

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                  • woolie@mastodon.socialW woolie@mastodon.social

                    @DavidAnson @ccgus I think the term is “write once, suck everywhere”

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                    @woolie @DavidAnson @ccgus

                    Or "Write once, run away very very fast."

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                    • i_am_fabs@mastodon.socialI i_am_fabs@mastodon.social

                      @ccgus this did not age well. 😵‍💫

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                      @i_am_fabs @ccgus I bet the J2ObjC usage is for the data modeling layer (so it's easily sharable with Android).

                      J2ObjC doesn't provide any kind of UI code support, so the UI layer is probably still native SwiftUI.

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                      • cdoncarroll@mstdn.socialC cdoncarroll@mstdn.social

                        @i_am_fabs @ccgus I bet the J2ObjC usage is for the data modeling layer (so it's easily sharable with Android).

                        J2ObjC doesn't provide any kind of UI code support, so the UI layer is probably still native SwiftUI.

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                        @cdoncarroll @ccgus he did not say SwiftUI … he said native swift … and so it’s not

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