<![CDATA[The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!).]]>The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

What in the world are they doing?

So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/topic/bbba84f1-22d5-4842-afee-12d13d562e90/the-new-mac-gemini-app-has-a-huge-executable-binary-128mb-.RSS for NodeWed, 22 Apr 2026 09:13:56 GMTWed, 15 Apr 2026 18:55:39 GMT60<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Thu, 16 Apr 2026 14:17:24 GMT]]>@cdoncarroll @ccgus he did not say SwiftUI … he said native swift … and so it’s not

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/i_am_fabs/statuses/116414810986528380https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/i_am_fabs/statuses/116414810986528380Thu, 16 Apr 2026 14:17:24 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Thu, 16 Apr 2026 13:43:42 GMT]]>@i_am_fabs @ccgus I bet the J2ObjC usage is for the data modeling layer (so it's easily sharable with Android).

J2ObjC doesn't provide any kind of UI code support, so the UI layer is probably still native SwiftUI.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/cdoncarroll/statuses/116414678479386865https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/cdoncarroll/statuses/116414678479386865Thu, 16 Apr 2026 13:43:42 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Thu, 16 Apr 2026 11:58:06 GMT]]>@woolie @DavidAnson @ccgus

Or "Write once, run away very very fast."

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://wandering.shop/users/Cadbury_Moose/statuses/116414263237631281https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://wandering.shop/users/Cadbury_Moose/statuses/116414263237631281Thu, 16 Apr 2026 11:58:06 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Thu, 16 Apr 2026 11:00:39 GMT]]>@ccgus I feel like everything Google does is cursed.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/causticmsngo/statuses/116414037314802912https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/causticmsngo/statuses/116414037314802912Thu, 16 Apr 2026 11:00:39 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Thu, 16 Apr 2026 06:42:51 GMT]]>@ccgus Android is now a Swift target, but it's really kind of weird how it works. I'm still trying to figure it out. It wraps Swift code around Java https://www.swift.org/blog/exploring-the-swift-sdk-for-android/

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/praetor/statuses/116413023598341704https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mstdn.social/users/praetor/statuses/116413023598341704Thu, 16 Apr 2026 06:42:51 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Thu, 16 Apr 2026 04:39:52 GMT]]>@ccgus @bugaevc cough https://developers.google.com/j2objc cough

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ap.nil.im/objects/40fcd911-de9c-4f99-8c72-1899d96dd95fhttps://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://ap.nil.im/objects/40fcd911-de9c-4f99-8c72-1899d96dd95fThu, 16 Apr 2026 04:39:52 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Thu, 16 Apr 2026 04:09:11 GMT]]>@ccgus Why am I not surprised? Everything Google does is trash.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dfgomes/statuses/116412419390522177https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/dfgomes/statuses/116412419390522177Thu, 16 Apr 2026 04:09:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Thu, 16 Apr 2026 01:12:48 GMT]]>@DavidAnson @ccgus I think the term is “write once, suck everywhere”

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/woolie/statuses/116411725838757335https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/woolie/statuses/116411725838757335Thu, 16 Apr 2026 01:12:48 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Thu, 16 Apr 2026 00:36:13 GMT]]>@helge looks like j2objc has heuristics to implement MRR

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]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/heathborders/statuses/116411581948182772https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/heathborders/statuses/116411581948182772Thu, 16 Apr 2026 00:36:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Thu, 16 Apr 2026 00:31:11 GMT]]>@ccgus Sounds like they’re using Kotlin, maybe.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/lukeratta/statuses/116411562183113399https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/lukeratta/statuses/116411562183113399Thu, 16 Apr 2026 00:31:11 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 22:32:09 GMT]]>@heathborders @ccgus I still wonder how sth like this can actually work, mostly considering GC

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/helge/statuses/116411094086212986https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/helge/statuses/116411094086212986Wed, 15 Apr 2026 22:32:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 21:59:38 GMT]]>@ccgus @siracusa So it’s AU slop!

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://famichiki.jp/users/gullevek/statuses/116410966234553843https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://famichiki.jp/users/gullevek/statuses/116410966234553843Wed, 15 Apr 2026 21:59:38 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 21:28:36 GMT]]>@ccgus it's probably using j2objc or something.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/heathborders/statuses/116410844200308822https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/heathborders/statuses/116410844200308822Wed, 15 Apr 2026 21:28:36 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 20:38:40 GMT]]>@ccgus @siracusa to be fair, Google is a small company and doesn’t really have the resources to do a proper Mac app. We should start a fundraiser…

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/otolithe/statuses/116410647843677280https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/otolithe/statuses/116410647843677280Wed, 15 Apr 2026 20:38:40 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 20:30:58 GMT]]>Well thanks to @sdpd, I think this answers the Java to Objective-C question: https://developers.google.com/j2objc

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ccgus/statuses/116410617562344659https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ccgus/statuses/116410617562344659Wed, 15 Apr 2026 20:30:58 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 20:25:15 GMT]]>@sdpd Very cool, thanks for the pointer.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ccgus/statuses/116410595130283307https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ccgus/statuses/116410595130283307Wed, 15 Apr 2026 20:25:15 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:54:18 GMT]]>@ccgus @siracusa Funny how all these AI apps sound vibe-coded. 😂

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://techhub.social/users/0x1ac/statuses/116410473403301366https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://techhub.social/users/0x1ac/statuses/116410473403301366Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:54:18 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:43:49 GMT]]>@ccgus “technically” native, then?

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jacksonhayes/statuses/116410432203948114https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/jacksonhayes/statuses/116410432203948114Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:43:49 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:43:08 GMT]]>@ccgus “Write once, run anywhere!”

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/DavidAnson/statuses/116410429484721529https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/DavidAnson/statuses/116410429484721529Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:43:08 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:40:09 GMT]]>@ccgus https://developers.google.com/j2objc

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/sdpd/statuses/116410417802020794https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://hachyderm.io/users/sdpd/statuses/116410417802020794Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:40:09 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:25:23 GMT]]>@ccgus this did not age well. 😵‍💫

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/i_am_fabs/statuses/116410359712724445https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/i_am_fabs/statuses/116410359712724445Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:25:23 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:14:13 GMT]]>@ccgus @Drarok <spoiler> They aren’t the first ones to use a Java to ObjC cross-compiler in production.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/alexr/statuses/116410315788504398https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.online/users/alexr/statuses/116410315788504398Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:14:13 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:01:07 GMT]]>@Drarok Maybe! Something tells me that Google would write their own transpiler though, because they are mad scientists at heart.

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ccgus/statuses/116410264284434634https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/ccgus/statuses/116410264284434634Wed, 15 Apr 2026 19:01:07 GMT<![CDATA[Reply to The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). on Wed, 15 Apr 2026 18:59:48 GMT]]>@ccgus any chance they’re using Kotlin in there? Java class names could be part of a runtime, I’ve never used it though. https://kotlinlang.org/docs/multiplatform/multiplatform-integrate-in-existing-app.html

]]>https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Drarok/statuses/116410259099683926https://board.circlewithadot.net/post/https://mastodon.social/users/Drarok/statuses/116410259099683926Wed, 15 Apr 2026 18:59:48 GMT