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  • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

    @Drarok Maybe! Something tells me that Google would write their own transpiler though, because they are mad scientists at heart.

    alexr@mastodon.onlineA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @ccgus @Drarok <spoiler> They aren’t the first ones to use a Java to ObjC cross-compiler in production.

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    • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

      The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

      What in the world are they doing?

      So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

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      @ccgus this did not age well. 😵‍💫

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      • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

        The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

        What in the world are they doing?

        So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

        sdpd@hachyderm.ioS This user is from outside of this forum
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        @ccgus https://developers.google.com/j2objc

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        • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

          The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

          What in the world are they doing?

          So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

          davidanson@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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          @ccgus “Write once, run anywhere!”

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          • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

            The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

            What in the world are they doing?

            So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

            jacksonhayes@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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            @ccgus “technically” native, then?

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            • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

              The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

              What in the world are they doing?

              So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

              0x1ac@techhub.social0 This user is from outside of this forum
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              @ccgus @siracusa Funny how all these AI apps sound vibe-coded. 😂

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              • sdpd@hachyderm.ioS sdpd@hachyderm.io

                @ccgus https://developers.google.com/j2objc

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                @sdpd Very cool, thanks for the pointer.

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                • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

                  The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

                  What in the world are they doing?

                  So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

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                  Well thanks to @sdpd, I think this answers the Java to Objective-C question: https://developers.google.com/j2objc

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                  • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

                    The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

                    What in the world are they doing?

                    So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

                    otolithe@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @ccgus @siracusa to be fair, Google is a small company and doesn’t really have the resources to do a proper Mac app. We should start a fundraiser…

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                    • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

                      The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

                      What in the world are they doing?

                      So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

                      heathborders@hachyderm.ioH This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @ccgus it's probably using j2objc or something.

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                      • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

                        The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

                        What in the world are they doing?

                        So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

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                        @ccgus @siracusa So it’s AU slop!

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                        • heathborders@hachyderm.ioH heathborders@hachyderm.io

                          @ccgus it's probably using j2objc or something.

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                          @heathborders @ccgus I still wonder how sth like this can actually work, mostly considering GC

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                          • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

                            The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

                            What in the world are they doing?

                            So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

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                            @ccgus Sounds like they’re using Kotlin, maybe.

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                            • helge@mastodon.socialH helge@mastodon.social

                              @heathborders @ccgus I still wonder how sth like this can actually work, mostly considering GC

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                              @helge looks like j2objc has heuristics to implement MRR

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                              • davidanson@mastodon.socialD davidanson@mastodon.social

                                @ccgus “Write once, run anywhere!”

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                                @DavidAnson @ccgus I think the term is “write once, suck everywhere”

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                                • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

                                  The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

                                  What in the world are they doing?

                                  So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

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                                  @ccgus Why am I not surprised? Everything Google does is trash.

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                                  • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

                                    The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

                                    What in the world are they doing?

                                    So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

                                    js@ap.nil.imJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @ccgus @bugaevc cough https://developers.google.com/j2objc cough

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                                    • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

                                      The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

                                      What in the world are they doing?

                                      So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

                                      praetor@mstdn.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @ccgus Android is now a Swift target, but it's really kind of weird how it works. I'm still trying to figure it out. It wraps Swift code around Java https://www.swift.org/blog/exploring-the-swift-sdk-for-android/

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                                      • ccgus@mastodon.socialC ccgus@mastodon.social

                                        The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!). Took a peak at it and … it contains 1,856 Objective-C classes whose class name starts with Java.

                                        What in the world are they doing?

                                        So I had Gemini analyze Gemini. Looks like there’s a lot of shared Android code in there, but compiled to Objective-C and Swift.

                                        causticmsngo@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        @ccgus I feel like everything Google does is cursed.

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                                        • woolie@mastodon.socialW woolie@mastodon.social

                                          @DavidAnson @ccgus I think the term is “write once, suck everywhere”

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                                          @woolie @DavidAnson @ccgus

                                          Or "Write once, run away very very fast."

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