The new Mac Gemini app has a huge executable binary (128MB!).

[i_am_fabs@mastodon.social]

@ccgus this did not age well. ‍

[sdpd@hachyderm.io]

@ccgus https://developers.google.com/j2objc

[davidanson@mastodon.social]

@ccgus “Write once, run anywhere!”

[jacksonhayes@mastodon.social]

@ccgus “technically” native, then?

[0x1ac@techhub.social]

@ccgus @siracusa Funny how all these AI apps sound vibe-coded.

[ccgus@mastodon.social]

@sdpd Very cool, thanks for the pointer.

[ccgus@mastodon.social]

Well thanks to @sdpd, I think this answers the Java to Objective-C question: https://developers.google.com/j2objc

[otolithe@mastodon.social]

@ccgus @siracusa to be fair, Google is a small company and doesn’t really have the resources to do a proper Mac app. We should start a fundraiser…

[heathborders@hachyderm.io]

@ccgus it's probably using j2objc or something.

[gullevek@famichiki.jp]

@ccgus @siracusa So it’s AU slop!

[helge@mastodon.social]

@heathborders @ccgus I still wonder how sth like this can actually work, mostly considering GC

[lukeratta@mastodon.social]

@ccgus Sounds like they’re using Kotlin, maybe.

[heathborders@hachyderm.io]

@helge looks like j2objc has heuristics to implement MRR

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[woolie@mastodon.social]

@DavidAnson @ccgus I think the term is “write once, suck everywhere”

[dfgomes@mastodon.social]

@ccgus Why am I not surprised? Everything Google does is trash.

[js@ap.nil.im]

@ccgus @bugaevc cough https://developers.google.com/j2objc cough

[praetor@mstdn.social]

@ccgus Android is now a Swift target, but it's really kind of weird how it works. I'm still trying to figure it out. It wraps Swift code around Java https://www.swift.org/blog/exploring-the-swift-sdk-for-android/

[causticmsngo@mastodon.social]

@ccgus I feel like everything Google does is cursed.

[cadbury_moose@wandering.shop]

@woolie @DavidAnson @ccgus

Or "Write once, run away very very fast."

[cdoncarroll@mstdn.social]

@i_am_fabs @ccgus I bet the J2ObjC usage is for the data modeling layer (so it's easily sharable with Android).

J2ObjC doesn't provide any kind of UI code support, so the UI layer is probably still native SwiftUI.