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  • foxcj@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #101

    @electropict @benroyce @urlyman @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj FWIW, I believe The Political Compass' methodology is to keep the same metrics and scale, allowing results to be compared over time. This allows, e.g., UK Labour's shift to the authoritarian right to be tracked, rather than them being portrayed as vaguely centre, or even leftwing, as rightwing rags and social media platforms normalise extremist, authoritarian political discourse.

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    • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

      ๐Ÿ’— Schengen

      โ€œHave you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the towns of Baarle-Hertog-Nassau, you can fly from the Netherlands into Belgium and back.โ€

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      stanni@norden.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      @fj still have to remember to get a childrens passport for kids who want to use that swing ๐Ÿ˜…

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      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

        @riggbeck @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

        i don't quite understand why people don't immediately see that tankies aren't on the left. they are obviously fake in some cases. in other cases, extremely deluded people who are somewhere on a midpoint in their ideological journey from a left background to becoming outright right wing fascists. a scam or future MAGA, that is all tankies are

        riggbeck@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #103

        @benroyce @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

        That sounds a bit like the No True Scotsman fallacy. I think you can take different political positions, place them on the left/right spectrum, and still find arseholes everywhere. For example, were the Bolsheviks socialist or fascist? The government founded by them created a tyranny.

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        • riggbeck@mastodon.socialR riggbeck@mastodon.social

          @benroyce @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

          That sounds a bit like the No True Scotsman fallacy. I think you can take different political positions, place them on the left/right spectrum, and still find arseholes everywhere. For example, were the Bolsheviks socialist or fascist? The government founded by them created a tyranny.

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          @riggbeck @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

          no because the no true scotsman fallacy is an appeal to purity. as if tankies aren't pure leftists because they embrace authortarianism

          but i am rejecting the classification of tankies on the left entirely. i'm not saying they are impure leftists, i am saying they aren't even leftists at all. either liars: agent provocateurs, or delusional idiots who haven't worked out the contradictions in what they say they believe

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          • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

            ๐Ÿ’— Schengen

            โ€œHave you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the towns of Baarle-Hertog-Nassau, you can fly from the Netherlands into Belgium and back.โ€

            Link Preview Image
            Borders are a construct, but this swing isn't

            Have you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the

            favicon

            The European Correspondent (europeancorrespondent.com)

            warpinwolf@mastodon.egroc.deW This user is from outside of this forum
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            #105

            @fj luckily this is not on the border to Germany because there you would then have to show your passport 20 times per minute. Thanks #Dobrinth !

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              #106

              @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj @urlyman

              well said

              i'd frame it as:

              moderation in all things...

              including moderation

              sometimes it is the right thing to do to go absolutist. depending on context. certainly not most of the time, not even some of the time. just those rare instances. such as on the very discussion of tolerance itself, which leads one to the position that intolerance must absolutely not be tolerated. which can be confusing, but works if you think it out

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @riggbeck @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                no because the no true scotsman fallacy is an appeal to purity. as if tankies aren't pure leftists because they embrace authortarianism

                but i am rejecting the classification of tankies on the left entirely. i'm not saying they are impure leftists, i am saying they aren't even leftists at all. either liars: agent provocateurs, or delusional idiots who haven't worked out the contradictions in what they say they believe

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                @benroyce @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                If I had posted the full text of the Independent Socialist leaflet, and just left out the tankie bits, he would come across as a genuine socialist.

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                • riggbeck@mastodon.socialR riggbeck@mastodon.social

                  @benroyce @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                  If I had posted the full text of the Independent Socialist leaflet, and just left out the tankie bits, he would come across as a genuine socialist.

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                  #108

                  @riggbeck @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                  you can do that with anything

                  i can write a leaflet with electrifying glorious statements of environmentalism... then conclude with: lets consume more oil

                  you'd call that lying or delusional

                  not impure

                  the issue is disqualifying beliefs that places one firmly outside of a category, not impurity within a category

                  thus, anyone who believes in tyranny over the people, on behalf of the people, are working a lying contradiction

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                  • warpinwolf@mastodon.egroc.deW warpinwolf@mastodon.egroc.de

                    @fj luckily this is not on the border to Germany because there you would then have to show your passport 20 times per minute. Thanks #Dobrinth !

                    brentthomas@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @WarpinWolf @fj

                    I would think a passport would only be required if touching down in a country. This would just be flying through their airspace, which I would not expect to require a passport.

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