I would think a passport would only be required if touching down in a country. This would just be flying through their airspace, which I would not expect to require a passport.

you can do that with anything

i can write a leaflet with electrifying glorious statements of environmentalism... then conclude with: lets consume more oil

you'd call that lying or delusional

not impure

the issue is disqualifying beliefs that places one firmly outside of a category, not impurity within a category

thus, anyone who believes in tyranny over the people, on behalf of the people, are working a lying contradiction

If I had posted the full text of the Independent Socialist leaflet, and just left out the tankie bits, he would come across as a genuine socialist.

well said

i'd frame it as:

moderation in all things...

including moderation

sometimes it is the right thing to do to go absolutist. depending on context. certainly not most of the time, not even some of the time. just those rare instances. such as on the very discussion of tolerance itself, which leads one to the position that intolerance must absolutely not be tolerated. which can be confusing, but works if you think it out

no because the no true scotsman fallacy is an appeal to purity. as if tankies aren't pure leftists because they embrace authortarianism

but i am rejecting the classification of tankies on the left entirely. i'm not saying they are impure leftists, i am saying they aren't even leftists at all. either liars: agent provocateurs, or delusional idiots who haven't worked out the contradictions in what they say they believe

That sounds a bit like the No True Scotsman fallacy. I think you can take different political positions, place them on the left/right spectrum, and still find arseholes everywhere. For example, were the Bolsheviks socialist or fascist? The government founded by them created a tyranny.

i don't quite understand why people don't immediately see that tankies aren't on the left. they are obviously fake in some cases. in other cases, extremely deluded people who are somewhere on a midpoint in their ideological journey from a left background to becoming outright right wing fascists. a scam or future MAGA, that is all tankies are

you know...

i can totally get behind that

Until now I thought the "art border" between Switzerland and Germany is a nice symbol for a merging Europe but the swing tops it!

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Kunstgrenze.jpg

Funny thought and a little bit creepy.

Wow.
Does anyone know if such a mapping exists for #Deutschland #Parteien #Wähler_innen?

We have local, Welsh and Scottish elections here on May 7. I got a leaflet from the Independent Socialist candidate for my Scottish constituency. It's full of the usual things you might expect, but clearly also pro-Russian.

Ukraine can't win and 'the Russian threat isn't credible' (in bold). We should 'negotiate a non-aggression pact with Russia. Buy cheap Russian energy.'

Definitely tankie. I'm voting SNP1, Green2.

Fingers crossed.

I can't help wondering whether Orwell's world map in 1984 is becoming a reality....

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Eysenck used the terms 'tenderminded' and 'toughminded' in place of libertarian/authoritarian if that helps?

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