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  • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

    ๐Ÿ’— Schengen

    โ€œHave you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the towns of Baarle-Hertog-Nassau, you can fly from the Netherlands into Belgium and back.โ€

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    @fj Happy people, no ugly German border controls! ๐Ÿ˜

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    • beach@illo.socialB beach@illo.social

      @fj And if you fall off, can you go to hospital in either country?

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      @beach Thanks to the EU healthcare card, yes. @fj

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      • littlealex@infosec.exchangeL littlealex@infosec.exchange

        @fj Imagine this 80 years ago! It is remarkable how far we came from a continent always at war. Not everything is perfect, but we are on the right track.

        ๐Ÿ˜

        #eu #europeanunion #schengen

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        @littlealex ๐Ÿ‘ @fj

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @metaphil @fj

          like this:

          in the beginning of 1963, the town of Elten was Dutch, but on August 1, it became German

          Dutch and German traders moved their trucks into Elten with all sorts of cargo in late July that was usually subject to import tax (butter, coffee, etc)

          so when the borders shifted Aug 1, there was no import tax, because the goods hadn't moved

          the event became known as "Eltener Butternacht": Butter Night

          it was so huge they had to do road repairs

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          Eltener Butternacht maakte exporteurs rijk

          Op 31 juli 1963, vandaag 47 jaar geleden gebeurde het: De Eltener Butternacht, een bijzondere anekdote in de Nederlands-Duitse geschiedenis.

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          @benroyce @metaphil @fj

          and that is exactly *why* the EU exists (and why it was a daft idea for folk in the UK to vote to leave it and now we are all in a mess because of that decision)

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          • vfrmedia@social.tchncs.deV vfrmedia@social.tchncs.de

            @benroyce @metaphil @fj

            and that is exactly *why* the EU exists (and why it was a daft idea for folk in the UK to vote to leave it and now we are all in a mess because of that decision)

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            @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

            The US and the UK are alike in suffering vast consequences for this far right upwelling of stupidity. We both have a lot of fixing to do. I'm pretty sure the UK will slowly rejoin the EU piecemeal

            Like this:

            https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/17/uk/britain-erasmus-european-union-student-intl

            All the ignorance and lies but what makes sense still and always will make sense and never goes away. Time and clearer minds will do their thing

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            • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

              ๐Ÿ’— Schengen

              โ€œHave you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the towns of Baarle-Hertog-Nassau, you can fly from the Netherlands into Belgium and back.โ€

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              Borders are a construct, but this swing isn't

              Have you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the

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              The European Correspondent (europeancorrespondent.com)

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              @fj
              Does anyone know if swing safety regulations are harmonised in the Benelux countries?

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              • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                ๐Ÿ’— Schengen

                โ€œHave you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the towns of Baarle-Hertog-Nassau, you can fly from the Netherlands into Belgium and back.โ€

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                Borders are a construct, but this swing isn't

                Have you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the

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                The European Correspondent (europeancorrespondent.com)

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                @fj That is the kind of politics I can get behind.

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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                  The US and the UK are alike in suffering vast consequences for this far right upwelling of stupidity. We both have a lot of fixing to do. I'm pretty sure the UK will slowly rejoin the EU piecemeal

                  Like this:

                  https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/17/uk/britain-erasmus-european-union-student-intl

                  All the ignorance and lies but what makes sense still and always will make sense and never goes away. Time and clearer minds will do their thing

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                  @benroyce

                  If the UK held a second referendum on rejoining the EU tomorrow then 'Rejoin' would win, but the same dark forces that campaigned for Brexit in the initial referendum haven't gone away and their reasons for leaving the EU haven't changed.


                  @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

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                  • reggiehere@mastodon.socialR reggiehere@mastodon.social

                    @benroyce

                    If the UK held a second referendum on rejoining the EU tomorrow then 'Rejoin' would win, but the same dark forces that campaigned for Brexit in the initial referendum haven't gone away and their reasons for leaving the EU haven't changed.


                    @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

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                    @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                    "the same dark forces that campaigned for Brexit in the initial referendum haven't gone away"

                    and how do we fix it?

                    this plutocrat-bigot political axis

                    i'm not asking like i know the answer. it's a huge problem

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                    • naturemc@mastodon.onlineN naturemc@mastodon.online

                      @beach Thanks to the EU healthcare card, yes. @fj

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                      But what if you damage yourself and are bleeding out while lying on top of the border, rather that cleanly on one side or the other?
                      @NatureMC @beach @fj

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                        "the same dark forces that campaigned for Brexit in the initial referendum haven't gone away"

                        and how do we fix it?

                        this plutocrat-bigot political axis

                        i'm not asking like i know the answer. it's a huge problem

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                        @benroyce @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                        Me neither but this map of it has stayed with me https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/114437610906205685

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                        • urlyman@mastodon.socialU urlyman@mastodon.social

                          @benroyce @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                          Me neither but this map of it has stayed with me https://mastodon.social/@urlyman/114437610906205685

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                          @urlyman @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                          oof

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                          • kallekn@mastodonsweden.seK kallekn@mastodonsweden.se

                            @aliide @fj Maybe @jon knows more about this, as he has visited the square and tested the swing, seemingly with no serious injuries?

                            https://youtu.be/96Z4AKu0WYM?si=Hlxjukv_EWSYg0Yj

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                            @kallekn @aliide @fj itโ€™s a big swing. But you sit not stand on it. I
                            Imagine itโ€™s quite safe!

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                            • benaveling@mastodon.ieB benaveling@mastodon.ie

                              But what if you damage yourself and are bleeding out while lying on top of the border, rather that cleanly on one side or the other?
                              @NatureMC @beach @fj

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                              @BenAveling Oh, this typical nitpicking of Mastodon! ๐Ÿ™„

                              Listen, if you find a person bleeding so much, call the urgency number (there are even international ones). An ambulance crew will arrive immediately, organised by the emergency services control centre (working across the border in such regions), and take the person to the nearest hospital (regardless of the country).
                              And if you have a problem that nationality doesn't play a role while saving people, just don't leave your bed.

                              @beach @fj

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                              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                                "the same dark forces that campaigned for Brexit in the initial referendum haven't gone away"

                                and how do we fix it?

                                this plutocrat-bigot political axis

                                i'm not asking like i know the answer. it's a huge problem

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                                @benroyce

                                As bad as the US looks at the moment, there has always been an influential group of mostly privileged people in the UK who wish that Britain would adopt a similar approach to America's far-right.

                                ....worth remembering here that there were significant factions in both the US and the UK that supported Fascist Germany in the 1930s.

                                @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

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                                • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                                  ๐Ÿ’— Schengen

                                  โ€œHave you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the towns of Baarle-Hertog-Nassau, you can fly from the Netherlands into Belgium and back.โ€

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                                  @fj

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                                  • reggiehere@mastodon.socialR reggiehere@mastodon.social

                                    @benroyce

                                    As bad as the US looks at the moment, there has always been an influential group of mostly privileged people in the UK who wish that Britain would adopt a similar approach to America's far-right.

                                    ....worth remembering here that there were significant factions in both the US and the UK that supported Fascist Germany in the 1930s.

                                    @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

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                                    @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                                    germany's (self made) wounds were so huge they had a culture shift

                                    but usa and uk, where the same nascent fascism as germany also was, never had such a reckoning

                                    for a long time the generations that saw the war recognized it and kept it in check

                                    but those generations died off

                                    and so it was just a matter of time before they hit upon a strategy that allowed them to come to the fore on minds that did not learn from history and do not understand the threat

                                    ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

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                                    • cannaparts@nrw.socialC cannaparts@nrw.social

                                      @stf

                                      Belgium has plenty crazy "borders" in the east, too - exclaves and enclaves with Germany - 1st & 2nd WorldWar related...

                                      On the pic you can run/walk Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands also within a second.

                                      It's a nice place to visit and btw. the highest point of continental Netherland (322m above sea level) - 30km south is Belgiums highest point with 694m

                                      @fj

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                                      @CannaParts @stf @fj My kids did this! We were there three years ago. https://ohpiglet.github.io/ohpiglet/2023/05/10/multiple-quick-visits-to-the-netherlands-germany-and-belgium/

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                                      • fj@mastodon.socialF fj@mastodon.social

                                        ๐Ÿ’— Schengen

                                        โ€œHave you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the towns of Baarle-Hertog-Nassau, you can fly from the Netherlands into Belgium and back.โ€

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                                        Borders are a construct, but this swing isn't

                                        Have you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the

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                                        @fj Schengen is great. I crossed the Swissโ€“French border almost every day for 4 years. Not sure how many times I got stopped on the public border (we also had a private border crossing with a gate) but it was maybe once or twice a year.

                                        My office was in Switzerland, but I usually ate lunch in our cafeteria just up the road in France. ๐Ÿ˜

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                                        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                          @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

                                          germany's (self made) wounds were so huge they had a culture shift

                                          but usa and uk, where the same nascent fascism as germany also was, never had such a reckoning

                                          for a long time the generations that saw the war recognized it and kept it in check

                                          but those generations died off

                                          and so it was just a matter of time before they hit upon a strategy that allowed them to come to the fore on minds that did not learn from history and do not understand the threat

                                          ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

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                                          @benroyce

                                          That's a net summary.

                                          I think Germany's experience was an object lesson to fascist groups, but the vast number of battle hardened and military-trained service men returning from a war and wanting social reform was a factor too.

                                          The post-WW2 consensus was built on an Establishment fear of old institutions being deposed in favour of new socialist states.

                                          ....afterall, the economic reforms of the 1980s coincided with the collapse of the USSR.

                                          @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj

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