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@benroyce @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj
We have local, Welsh and Scottish elections here on May 7. I got a leaflet from the Independent Socialist candidate for my Scottish constituency. It's full of the usual things you might expect, but clearly also pro-Russian.
Ukraine can't win and 'the Russian threat isn't credible' (in bold). We should 'negotiate a non-aggression pact with Russia. Buy cheap Russian energy.'
Definitely tankie. I'm voting SNP1, Green2.
@riggbeck @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj
i don't quite understand why people don't immediately see that tankies aren't on the left. they are obviously fake in some cases. in other cases, extremely deluded people who are somewhere on a midpoint in their ideological journey from a left background to becoming outright right wing fascists. a scam or future MAGA, that is all tankies are
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@electropict @benroyce @urlyman @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj FWIW, I believe The Political Compass' methodology is to keep the same metrics and scale, allowing results to be compared over time. This allows, e.g., UK Labour's shift to the authoritarian right to be tracked, rather than them being portrayed as vaguely centre, or even leftwing, as rightwing rags and social media platforms normalise extremist, authoritarian political discourse.
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Schengen โHave you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the towns of Baarle-Hertog-Nassau, you can fly from the Netherlands into Belgium and back.โ
Borders are a construct, but this swing isn't
Have you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the
The European Correspondent (europeancorrespondent.com)
@fj still have to remember to get a childrens passport for kids who want to use that swing
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@riggbeck @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj
i don't quite understand why people don't immediately see that tankies aren't on the left. they are obviously fake in some cases. in other cases, extremely deluded people who are somewhere on a midpoint in their ideological journey from a left background to becoming outright right wing fascists. a scam or future MAGA, that is all tankies are
@benroyce @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj
That sounds a bit like the No True Scotsman fallacy. I think you can take different political positions, place them on the left/right spectrum, and still find arseholes everywhere. For example, were the Bolsheviks socialist or fascist? The government founded by them created a tyranny.
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@benroyce @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj
That sounds a bit like the No True Scotsman fallacy. I think you can take different political positions, place them on the left/right spectrum, and still find arseholes everywhere. For example, were the Bolsheviks socialist or fascist? The government founded by them created a tyranny.
@riggbeck @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj
no because the no true scotsman fallacy is an appeal to purity. as if tankies aren't pure leftists because they embrace authortarianism
but i am rejecting the classification of tankies on the left entirely. i'm not saying they are impure leftists, i am saying they aren't even leftists at all. either liars: agent provocateurs, or delusional idiots who haven't worked out the contradictions in what they say they believe
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Schengen
โHave you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the towns of Baarle-Hertog-Nassau, you can fly from the Netherlands into Belgium and back.โ
Borders are a construct, but this swing isn't
Have you ever wanted to fly across a border more than 40 times in one minute? No? As of last month, you can do it anyway: By hopping on a swing in the
The European Correspondent (europeancorrespondent.com)
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@electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj @urlyman
well said
i'd frame it as:
moderation in all things...
including moderation
sometimes it is the right thing to do to go absolutist. depending on context. certainly not most of the time, not even some of the time. just those rare instances. such as on the very discussion of tolerance itself, which leads one to the position that intolerance must absolutely not be tolerated. which can be confusing, but works if you think it out
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@riggbeck @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj
no because the no true scotsman fallacy is an appeal to purity. as if tankies aren't pure leftists because they embrace authortarianism
but i am rejecting the classification of tankies on the left entirely. i'm not saying they are impure leftists, i am saying they aren't even leftists at all. either liars: agent provocateurs, or delusional idiots who haven't worked out the contradictions in what they say they believe
@benroyce @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj
If I had posted the full text of the Independent Socialist leaflet, and just left out the tankie bits, he would come across as a genuine socialist.
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@benroyce @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj
If I had posted the full text of the Independent Socialist leaflet, and just left out the tankie bits, he would come across as a genuine socialist.
@riggbeck @urlyman @electropict @ReggieHere @vfrmedia @metaphil @fj
you can do that with anything
i can write a leaflet with electrifying glorious statements of environmentalism... then conclude with: lets consume more oil
you'd call that lying or delusional
not impure
the issue is disqualifying beliefs that places one firmly outside of a category, not impurity within a category
thus, anyone who believes in tyranny over the people, on behalf of the people, are working a lying contradiction
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I would think a passport would only be required if touching down in a country. This would just be flying through their airspace, which I would not expect to require a passport.
