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Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    @epistomai Not Denmark, I know that much. We have cameras in the cities and it is illegal to cover your face. Dystopian.

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    @randahl @epistomai In many parts of the US it used to be illegal to wear a mask in public. Some were meant to combat groups like the Ku Klux Klan. Others to make it illegal to go into a bank wearing a mask. Covid and ICE certainly created a whole new issue over masks.

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    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

      Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

      During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

      This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

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      @randahl
      > So every time a citizen turns on his phone, ... what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

      Every time a citizen does an on-line purchase their name and delivery address is made avaliable, every time a citizen enters range of a wifi-router whose owner did not care to end its SSID with "_nomap" suffix the oligoship knows where he is, regardless of the GPS being turned off. Usually, said citizen has also a home wifi routed through a telco operator on a long-term contract.

      Long story short: one "turns out" their phone with every their move, and s/he is known the moment their device binded to the Google or Apple account.

      The rest is taken care for by the dictatorship entities like RosKomNadozor in Russia, and Palantir in the U.S.

      > the police writes down their phones' unique IMEI
      A dissent prevention theater. The Roskomnadzor knows IMEI number at its first login to the GSM network, and knows who is using this device –by IMSI straight, or via the netlist built to date.

      Average people do not know siloviki know. Hence they came with this "write-down" theater.

      @briankrebs

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      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

        Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

        During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

        This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

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        @randahl people who have been checked like this need to clean their phones and exchange it with someone else who also had been checked. If enough people have different phones the data base will become useless.

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        • kvilkidi@mastodon.socialK kvilkidi@mastodon.social

          @randahl There are 1,808,100 prisoners in prisons in the USA and 433,006 in Russia. Thank you for reminding me what demagoguery is.

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          @kvilkidi Russia has 300 prisoners per 100,000 citizens.

          Sweden has 96
          Denmark has 70
          Norway has 55
          Finland has 52
          Iceland has 35

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

            During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

            This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

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            @randahl it reminds me of a certain country called USA since the last presidential elections, and also reminds me of what a good chunk of european politicians want to start introducing. In general everywhere we are going towards digital authoritarian prisons.

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @kvilkidi @rudolfsciemins @randahl

              oh hey timur, thanks for that gatekeeping

              so i'll talk about whatever the fuck i want to talk about

              i'll use this comment here for example to tell gatekeeping shitbags to shut the fuck up and trip on their front steps and wind up the hospital

              💋

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              @benroyce @kvilkidi instead of giving each other a hard time, let's all agree that both Trump and Putin belongs in prison.

              @rudolfsciemins

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                @benroyce @kvilkidi instead of giving each other a hard time, let's all agree that both Trump and Putin belongs in prison.

                @rudolfsciemins

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                #47

                @randahl @kvilkidi @rudolfsciemins

                agreed

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                • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

                  @randahl

                  Couldn't the Russian government just threaten a telecom company to give them the whole list of subscriber names and IMEI numbers?

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                  @jmcrookston Putin's challenge is, some Russians buy their phones and their SIM cards abroad. Georgia is one source.

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                  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                    @rudolfsciemins @randahl

                    i have 100s of comments hating on the govt of russia, putin, the kremlin

                    but i'm careful not to demonize regular russians, because yes, while many of them are loser assholes who support the stupid ethnofascist war on ukraine, many are not

                    and thus, not as some high minded moral principle, but simply as a matter of good tactics and strategy, we don't demonize all russians, simply because if putin is to be overthrown, it will be regular russians doing it

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                    @randahl @benroyce, they had opportunity to make normal life for most of the people for one generation in history of their nation. What did they do with it - started wars.
                    They have lost 1M+ and they are fine with that. If they wanted to change government, they would have done that with less casualties.
                    So.. Don't humanise orcs till their society changes the same way German did.

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                      #50

                      @krejgo @randahl you know Russia is much bigger than the USA right?

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                      • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                        @jmcrookston Putin's challenge is, some Russians buy their phones and their SIM cards abroad. Georgia is one source.

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                        @randahl

                        Ah interesting. And I guess the signals can't be blocked so they can get reception near borders etc

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                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                          @epistomai Not Denmark, I know that much. We have cameras in the cities and it is illegal to cover your face. Dystopian.

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                          @randahl @epistomai
                          How does that suit with the law about owning your (digital?) appearance/voice?
                          I thought no one is allowed to use it without your consent?
                          Or am i confusing something there?

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                          • rudolfsciemins@toot.lvR rudolfsciemins@toot.lv

                            @randahl @benroyce, they had opportunity to make normal life for most of the people for one generation in history of their nation. What did they do with it - started wars.
                            They have lost 1M+ and they are fine with that. If they wanted to change government, they would have done that with less casualties.
                            So.. Don't humanise orcs till their society changes the same way German did.

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                            @rudolfsciemins @randahl

                            are you latvian?

                            i just saw the tld on your profile name

                            in which case, i have to apologize to you

                            i give poles, lithuanians, estonians, latvians, ukrainians, etc all the leeway in the world to be as russophobic as they want. you are entitled to that

                            again, apologies, i didn't know where you were from

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                            • hakudzero@social.vivaldi.netH hakudzero@social.vivaldi.net

                              @randahl Серьёзно? Наверное я живу в параллельной вселенной, где ничего подобного не происходит. Но зато в моей вселенной в мирных русских городах гибнут мирные люди от оружия, которое поставляет НАТО террористам. И эта кровь вопиет к небу.

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                              @hakudzero @randahl

                              Украинцы осторожно уничтожают нефтеперерабатывающие заводы

                              в то время как русские осторожно бомбят многоквартирные дома, больницы и школы

                              в войне, которую начала Россия, ради этнофашистского империализма, геноцида и массовых убийств

                              ты лжец или идиот

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                              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                @kvilkidi Russia has 300 prisoners per 100,000 citizens.

                                Sweden has 96
                                Denmark has 70
                                Norway has 55
                                Finland has 52
                                Iceland has 35

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                                @randahl in the USA, there are 541 prisoners per 100,000 citizens, which is almost 2 times more than in Russia. Which country is the largest prison? Who better than this country to take into account the rest of freedom, right?

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                                • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                  Russian Telegram videos now show how ordinary citizens are stopped and having their phones searched.

                                  During these searches, the police writes down their phones' unique International Mobile Equipment Identity number to log their real identity and this number in a database. So every time a citizen turns on his phone, the dictatorship then knows which citizen it is, where he is, what he is doing online, and who he is talking to.

                                  This is not a country. This is the largest prison on earth.

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                                  @randahl
                                  The rat did his mess. Now it`s the time for non-stop bullshit.

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                                  • kvilkidi@mastodon.socialK kvilkidi@mastodon.social

                                    @randahl in the USA, there are 541 prisoners per 100,000 citizens, which is almost 2 times more than in Russia. Which country is the largest prison? Who better than this country to take into account the rest of freedom, right?

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                                    @kvilkidi @randahl

                                    the USA fucking sucks

                                    and?

                                    does the USA sucking magically change Russia away from being a shithole mafia thugocracy ethnofascist imperialist mass murdering genocider of Ukrainians?

                                    no

                                    so what is your point?

                                    ah, i know what it is:

                                    whataboutism

                                    the primary mode of empty denial by the USSR, and continued into the Putin govt, deflecting valid criticism with "well, what about..."

                                    weak

                                    it's a lazy shallow form of propaganda only demonstrating the speaker is a fucking moron

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                                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                                      @hakudzero Did Ukraine invade Russia in February 2022, or did Russia invade Ukraine?

                                      Once you get that right, you know who the terrorists are.

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                                      @randahl поэтому можно убивать мирных жителей? Бить по домам, школам, отдельным людям? Это звучит странно.

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                                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                                        @hakudzero @randahl

                                        Украинцы осторожно уничтожают нефтеперерабатывающие заводы

                                        в то время как русские осторожно бомбят многоквартирные дома, больницы и школы

                                        в войне, которую начала Россия, ради этнофашистского империализма, геноцида и массовых убийств

                                        ты лжец или идиот

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                                        @benroyce @randahl Осторожно? Ты сам лжешь. Они бьют по гражданским мирным целям и убивают мирных людей каждый день. Это огромная боль, а таккие как ты не хотят этого видеть и просто закрывают глаза в угоду идеологии.

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                                        • hakudzero@social.vivaldi.netH hakudzero@social.vivaldi.net

                                          @benroyce @randahl Осторожно? Ты сам лжешь. Они бьют по гражданским мирным целям и убивают мирных людей каждый день. Это огромная боль, а таккие как ты не хотят этого видеть и просто закрывают глаза в угоду идеологии.

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                                          @hakudzero @randahl

                                          «Они бьют по гражданским мирным целям и убивают мирных людей каждый день»

                                          Да, это правда.

                                          Именно так Россия и поступает в Украине.

                                          Рад, что ты учишься, безмозглый ватник.

                                          🤣

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