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  • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

    The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

    A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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    @mullvadnet

    How that would be enforced with VPN suppliers in other countries will be interesting to see.

    I suspect some of them will tell the UK.GOV to fuck off, which is the correct response.

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    • hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.comH hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com
      @alexanderdyas @mullvadnet It isn't, and I assume it's the point. Make the law vague enough that anyone can be prosecuted under it.
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      @hypolite @mullvadnet There should be a civil service IT sanity department. It is politically neutral, staffed by people who actually have a clue. Proposals like this are submitted to this department and a simple response is returned, one of:

      - Oh fuck off
      - Needs a lot of work, re-submit
      - Yeah, should be ok

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      • dotfox@mastodon.socialD dotfox@mastodon.social

        @mullvadnet curious timing. just about an hour ago I forged and verified my first zero knowledge proof that can tell the verifier that proof holder was born before a certain timestamp (aka. older than N years) at the same time reveling absolutely (!) nothing about proof holders, not even those who authorize it.

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        @dotfox @mullvadnet why are you working on tech to help the Nazis?

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        • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

          The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

          A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

          nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @mullvadnet
          How can the people in U.K escape being victims of such a policy that's slowly taking away their freedom?

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          • alexanderdyas@mindly.socialA alexanderdyas@mindly.social

            @hypolite @mullvadnet There should be a civil service IT sanity department. It is politically neutral, staffed by people who actually have a clue. Proposals like this are submitted to this department and a simple response is returned, one of:

            - Oh fuck off
            - Needs a lot of work, re-submit
            - Yeah, should be ok

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            @alexanderdyas @hypolite @mullvadnet I like that idea. 👍 It feels like politicians (and those that advise them) always pursue the worst technical solution to a problem. The "problem" of end-to-end encryption is another area where there's no shortage of political ideas that would cause more problems than they'd solve.

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            • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

              The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

              A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

              tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT This user is from outside of this forum
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              @mullvadnet@mastodon.online ah yes, Labour

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              • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                @mullvadnet

                Let me guess - the verification will be done by Palantir? Really not enjoying feeling like I’m living in Alan Moore’s fever dream

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                • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                  The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                  A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                  @mullvadnet Well this was unfortunately absolutely foreseeable after their previous law about age restriction and the following VPN usage surge... Doesn't make this any less bad, however.

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                  • alexanderdyas@mindly.socialA alexanderdyas@mindly.social

                    @hypolite @mullvadnet There should be a civil service IT sanity department. It is politically neutral, staffed by people who actually have a clue. Proposals like this are submitted to this department and a simple response is returned, one of:

                    - Oh fuck off
                    - Needs a lot of work, re-submit
                    - Yeah, should be ok

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                    @alexanderdyas @hypolite @mullvadnet

                    It's not just IT specific. It's human rights/freedoms issues. But then the UK doesn't have much of a constitution that would be protected from simple parliament majorities IIRC?

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                    • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                      The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                      A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                      @mullvadnet Reminder this is only a consultation but I deeply worry about passing any of this by using secondary legislation. I call on everyone in the UK to get involved in the consultation when it starts and tell them why this is a bad idea and support groups pushing back on this.

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                      • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                        The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                        A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                        @mullvadnet

                        Age verification for VPN doesn't make sense. Why shouldn't children use VPNs?

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                        • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                          The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                          A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                          @mullvadnet it amazes me the lengths parents will go to, to avoid parenting and require others to do it for them.

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                          • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

                            @mullvadnet
                            How can the people in U.K escape being victims of such a policy that's slowly taking away their freedom?

                            sundew@beige.partyS This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @nuwagaba2 @mullvadnet Both join, and vote for, the Green party.

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                            • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

                              @mullvadnet jesus fucking mosley

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                              @Kierkegaanks @mullvadnet if only mosley could see this he’d be so proud he’d shed a tear

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                              • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                                A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                                @mullvadnet The people don't do anything about this, which means the people are OK with it.

                                In any case, Russia won. No need to invade: UK and the rest of Europe are slowly becoming Russia.

                                #democracy #ukpol #eupol

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                                • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                  The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                                  A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

                                  admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.com
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                                  #35

                                  @mullvadnet Me: "I mean generally you pay with a credit card anyway so they already know who you are, unless you're using..."
                                  *looks at who posted this*
                                  Oh. Yeah that's who I was thinking of. xD

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                                  • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                    The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                                    A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

                                    gregalotl@c.imG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @mullvadnet
                                    Onion router, anyone?

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                                    • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                      The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                                      A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

                                      wod0bow@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @mullvadnet They are so close to total control. They already have govs, banks, bigtech, media and They want absolutne power. They can cancel your choice (like elections) They can do terrible things like on the E-Island and They can even kill other nations without consequences.
                                      There are not enough people who can notice that. And there are even less ones, who want to react.

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                                      • greatlaketrout@noc.socialG greatlaketrout@noc.social

                                        @mullvadnet

                                        Requiring every VPN user to verify their age to stop a few bad actors is like requiring everyone to show government ID to buy a hammer because a few people used hammers to commit crimes.

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                                        @greatlaketrout@noc.social @mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                        But you can actually kill someone with a hammer, much more easily than you can kill someone with a VPN. The UK Government is more afraid of words and communication than they are of
                                        deadly weapons.

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                                        • rhizomancer@todon.euR rhizomancer@todon.eu

                                          @mullvadnet Look what's going on in Spain as well: https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/la-liga-wins-court-order-requiring-nordvpn-and-proton-vpn-to-block-illegal-football-streams-in-spain-but-vpn-firms-say-they-have-not-been-notified

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                                          @rhizomancer @mullvadnet

                                          And there's no precision with those blocks either. Whole chunks of the internet go down in Spain when the soccer is playing, not just streaming sites

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