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  • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

    The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

    A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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    huriken@mas.to
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    @mullvadnet Well this was unfortunately absolutely foreseeable after their previous law about age restriction and the following VPN usage surge... Doesn't make this any less bad, however.

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    • alexanderdyas@mindly.socialA alexanderdyas@mindly.social

      @hypolite @mullvadnet There should be a civil service IT sanity department. It is politically neutral, staffed by people who actually have a clue. Proposals like this are submitted to this department and a simple response is returned, one of:

      - Oh fuck off
      - Needs a lot of work, re-submit
      - Yeah, should be ok

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      @alexanderdyas @hypolite @mullvadnet

      It's not just IT specific. It's human rights/freedoms issues. But then the UK doesn't have much of a constitution that would be protected from simple parliament majorities IIRC?

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      • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

        The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

        A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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        #29

        @mullvadnet Reminder this is only a consultation but I deeply worry about passing any of this by using secondary legislation. I call on everyone in the UK to get involved in the consultation when it starts and tell them why this is a bad idea and support groups pushing back on this.

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        • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

          The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

          A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

          sloanlance@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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          @mullvadnet

          Age verification for VPN doesn't make sense. Why shouldn't children use VPNs?

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          • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

            The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

            A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

            melioristicmarie@tech.lgbtM This user is from outside of this forum
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            melioristicmarie@tech.lgbt
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            @mullvadnet it amazes me the lengths parents will go to, to avoid parenting and require others to do it for them.

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            • nuwagaba2@mastodon.socialN nuwagaba2@mastodon.social

              @mullvadnet
              How can the people in U.K escape being victims of such a policy that's slowly taking away their freedom?

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              @nuwagaba2 @mullvadnet Both join, and vote for, the Green party.

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              • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

                @mullvadnet jesus fucking mosley

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                @Kierkegaanks @mullvadnet if only mosley could see this he’d be so proud he’d shed a tear

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                • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                  The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                  A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

                  pglpm@c.imP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  pglpm@c.im
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                  @mullvadnet The people don't do anything about this, which means the people are OK with it.

                  In any case, Russia won. No need to invade: UK and the rest of Europe are slowly becoming Russia.

                  #democracy #ukpol #eupol

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                  • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                    The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                    A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

                    admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    admin@mastodon.slightlycyberpunk.com
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                    #35

                    @mullvadnet Me: "I mean generally you pay with a credit card anyway so they already know who you are, unless you're using..."
                    *looks at who posted this*
                    Oh. Yeah that's who I was thinking of. xD

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                    • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                      The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                      A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

                      gregalotl@c.imG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      gregalotl@c.im
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                      @mullvadnet
                      Onion router, anyone?

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                      • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                        The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                        A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                        wod0bow@mastodon.social
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                        #37

                        @mullvadnet They are so close to total control. They already have govs, banks, bigtech, media and They want absolutne power. They can cancel your choice (like elections) They can do terrible things like on the E-Island and They can even kill other nations without consequences.
                        There are not enough people who can notice that. And there are even less ones, who want to react.

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                        • greatlaketrout@noc.socialG greatlaketrout@noc.social

                          @mullvadnet

                          Requiring every VPN user to verify their age to stop a few bad actors is like requiring everyone to show government ID to buy a hammer because a few people used hammers to commit crimes.

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                          @greatlaketrout@noc.social @mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                          But you can actually kill someone with a hammer, much more easily than you can kill someone with a VPN. The UK Government is more afraid of words and communication than they are of
                          deadly weapons.

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                          • rhizomancer@todon.euR rhizomancer@todon.eu

                            @mullvadnet Look what's going on in Spain as well: https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/la-liga-wins-court-order-requiring-nordvpn-and-proton-vpn-to-block-illegal-football-streams-in-spain-but-vpn-firms-say-they-have-not-been-notified

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                            @rhizomancer @mullvadnet

                            And there's no precision with those blocks either. Whole chunks of the internet go down in Spain when the soccer is playing, not just streaming sites

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                            • gregalotl@c.imG gregalotl@c.im

                              @mullvadnet
                              Onion router, anyone?

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                              @gregalotl @mullvadnet

                              And it won't be long before folks in the U.K. will need to use secret bridges for that too

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                              • sloanlance@mastodon.socialS sloanlance@mastodon.social

                                @mullvadnet

                                Age verification for VPN doesn't make sense. Why shouldn't children use VPNs?

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                                equity7804@hostux.social
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                                @sloanlance @mullvadnet It was never actually to protect the children, and always to enable mass surveillance & expand censorship

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                                • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                  The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                                  A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                                  agaxprex@mastodon.social
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                                  @mullvadnet We gotta band together and undermine the authority of the ISPs and the oligarchies that control them. Thank you for fighting back Mullvad 🫡

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                                  • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                    The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                                    A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                                    @mullvadnet @paul_ipv6
                                    I can’t say I understand this technology very well but as far as I do, it seems like people would just use a VPN in order to avoid being punished for using a VPN wouldn’t they?

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                                    • 2something@transfem.social2 2something@transfem.social

                                      @greatlaketrout@noc.social @mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                      But you can actually kill someone with a hammer, much more easily than you can kill someone with a VPN. The UK Government is more afraid of words and communication than they are of
                                      deadly weapons.

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                                      @2something @mullvadnet

                                      They are acting with extreme duplicity. Day one thing ( we support online privacy and the right of the individual to control their data) oh but by the way the laws we pass are going to destroy online privacy and the right for people to control their own data.

                                      Asshats one and all.

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                                      • 0daytux@infosec.exchange0 0daytux@infosec.exchange

                                        @Kierkegaanks @mullvadnet if only mosley could see this he’d be so proud he’d shed a tear

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                                        @0dayTux @Kierkegaanks @mullvadnet don't worry Mosley is getting plenty rich of this.

                                        Or rather his grandson is.

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                                        • project1enigma@chaos.socialP project1enigma@chaos.social

                                          @alexanderdyas @hypolite @mullvadnet

                                          It's not just IT specific. It's human rights/freedoms issues. But then the UK doesn't have much of a constitution that would be protected from simple parliament majorities IIRC?

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                                          @project1enigma @alexanderdyas @hypolite @mullvadnet the ECHR is relatively enshrined in so much as, yes, a simple majority could abandon it, but doing so would unravel a lot of other things and generally blow up relations with basically all of Europe except maybe Russia, so your have to be utterly off your rocker to try that.

                                          The three largest parties by polling all want to either tear up or substantially undermine the ECHR.

                                          Don't think any constitutional setup would protect us at this point…

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