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  • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

    The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

    A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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    @mullvadnet lol. This is an admission of failure if I've ever seen one. Since their safety nonsense tanked due to VPN existence, they're now trying an arms race. Good luck with that.

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    • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

      The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

      A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

      rhizomancer@todon.euR This user is from outside of this forum
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      @mullvadnet Look what's going on in Spain as well: https://www.techradar.com/vpn/vpn-privacy-security/la-liga-wins-court-order-requiring-nordvpn-and-proton-vpn-to-block-illegal-football-streams-in-spain-but-vpn-firms-say-they-have-not-been-notified

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      • alexanderdyas@mindly.socialA alexanderdyas@mindly.social

        @mullvadnet How on earth is this even enforceable?

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        @alexanderdyas @mullvadnet It isn't, and I assume it's the point. Make the law vague enough that anyone can be prosecuted under it.
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        • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

          The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

          A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

          nicelymanifest@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @mullvadnet So often, systems like government, sports clubs, businesses have such unscalable paths to the influencing of decision makers that they learn very fast that they can be authoritative and selfish with precious little interference.

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          • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

            The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

            A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

            dotfox@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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            @mullvadnet curious timing. just about an hour ago I forged and verified my first zero knowledge proof that can tell the verifier that proof holder was born before a certain timestamp (aka. older than N years) at the same time reveling absolutely (!) nothing about proof holders, not even those who authorize it.

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            • nemo@mas.toN nemo@mas.to

              @mullvadnet With all due respect. The UK government can you f… themselfes.

              You folks are great tho ❤️ 💪 🙏

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              @nemo @mullvadnet

              This is exactly my point as well. The EU has done some great things in digital privacy laws and yet they still want to do dumb shit. I am appaled with the issues with CSAM and I agree something needs to be done. I also agree with the deplorable ways in which social media has infected society - howver, the answer is not to destroy privacy.

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              • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                @mullvadnet

                Requiring every VPN user to verify their age to stop a few bad actors is like requiring everyone to show government ID to buy a hammer because a few people used hammers to commit crimes.

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                • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                  The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                  A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                  @mullvadnet

                  The revolution cannot come soon enough

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                  • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                    The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                    A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                    #19

                    @mullvadnet

                    phase 2 is requiring everyone to use an approved vpn aka government "gateway".

                    because right now, you can access the internet via all kinds of entry pints - from your broadband at home, to your 4G mobile, to the cafe wifi, etc and it makes it a little less convenient to surveil you.

                    much easier if all your traffic goes through the approved ID-verifying gateway.

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                    • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                      The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                      A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                      @mullvadnet

                      How that would be enforced with VPN suppliers in other countries will be interesting to see.

                      I suspect some of them will tell the UK.GOV to fuck off, which is the correct response.

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                      • hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.comH hypolite@friendica.mrpetovan.com
                        @alexanderdyas @mullvadnet It isn't, and I assume it's the point. Make the law vague enough that anyone can be prosecuted under it.
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                        @hypolite @mullvadnet There should be a civil service IT sanity department. It is politically neutral, staffed by people who actually have a clue. Proposals like this are submitted to this department and a simple response is returned, one of:

                        - Oh fuck off
                        - Needs a lot of work, re-submit
                        - Yeah, should be ok

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                        • dotfox@mastodon.socialD dotfox@mastodon.social

                          @mullvadnet curious timing. just about an hour ago I forged and verified my first zero knowledge proof that can tell the verifier that proof holder was born before a certain timestamp (aka. older than N years) at the same time reveling absolutely (!) nothing about proof holders, not even those who authorize it.

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                          @dotfox @mullvadnet why are you working on tech to help the Nazis?

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                          • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                            The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                            A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                            @mullvadnet
                            How can the people in U.K escape being victims of such a policy that's slowly taking away their freedom?

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                            • alexanderdyas@mindly.socialA alexanderdyas@mindly.social

                              @hypolite @mullvadnet There should be a civil service IT sanity department. It is politically neutral, staffed by people who actually have a clue. Proposals like this are submitted to this department and a simple response is returned, one of:

                              - Oh fuck off
                              - Needs a lot of work, re-submit
                              - Yeah, should be ok

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                              @alexanderdyas @hypolite @mullvadnet I like that idea. 👍 It feels like politicians (and those that advise them) always pursue the worst technical solution to a problem. The "problem" of end-to-end encryption is another area where there's no shortage of political ideas that would cause more problems than they'd solve.

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                              • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                                A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

                                tragivictoria@mastodon.catgirl.cloudT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @mullvadnet@mastodon.online ah yes, Labour

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                                • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                  The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                                  A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

                                  lemlems@mastodon.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @mullvadnet

                                  Let me guess - the verification will be done by Palantir? Really not enjoying feeling like I’m living in Alan Moore’s fever dream

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                                  • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                    The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                                    A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                                    @mullvadnet Well this was unfortunately absolutely foreseeable after their previous law about age restriction and the following VPN usage surge... Doesn't make this any less bad, however.

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                                    • alexanderdyas@mindly.socialA alexanderdyas@mindly.social

                                      @hypolite @mullvadnet There should be a civil service IT sanity department. It is politically neutral, staffed by people who actually have a clue. Proposals like this are submitted to this department and a simple response is returned, one of:

                                      - Oh fuck off
                                      - Needs a lot of work, re-submit
                                      - Yeah, should be ok

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                                      @alexanderdyas @hypolite @mullvadnet

                                      It's not just IT specific. It's human rights/freedoms issues. But then the UK doesn't have much of a constitution that would be protected from simple parliament majorities IIRC?

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                                      • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                        The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                                        A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                                        @mullvadnet Reminder this is only a consultation but I deeply worry about passing any of this by using secondary legislation. I call on everyone in the UK to get involved in the consultation when it starts and tell them why this is a bad idea and support groups pushing back on this.

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                                        • mullvadnet@mastodon.onlineM mullvadnet@mastodon.online

                                          The UK has announced plans to fast-track legislation requiring “age verification for VPN use”. The correct term, however, is not age verification but identity verification.

                                          A law like this would require everyone to identify themselves in order to use a VPN. This would pose a risk to whistleblowers, violate human rights, and represent yet another step toward an authoritarian society.

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                                          @mullvadnet

                                          Age verification for VPN doesn't make sense. Why shouldn't children use VPNs?

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