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  3. Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

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  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

    @futuresprog Great, and yes.. precisely!

    Here you go:

    A: 95.216.76.85
    AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

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    @JulianOliver @futuresprog ah, cool to know, thanks. can config a few from this ...

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    • vortex@tldr.nettime.orgV vortex@tldr.nettime.org

      @JulianOliver @futuresprog ah, cool to know, thanks. can config a few from this ...

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      #54

      @vortex @futuresprog Thanks a lot Adam! Please let me know when you're done. By DM is also fine too.

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      • pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafeP pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        @JulianOliver I think scraper bots and other parasites constantly scan TLS transparency reports to find new domains to probe. As soon as you have a new certificate, they start hitting your web server.

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        @pertho @JulianOliver a way around this is to use both DNS and TLS wildcard support - there is no single domain list in the report that can be slopped.

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        • dch@bsd.networkD dch@bsd.network

          @pertho @JulianOliver a way around this is to use both DNS and TLS wildcard support - there is no single domain list in the report that can be slopped.

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          @dch I would think they would still try the bare/apex domain and "www".
          @JulianOliver

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          • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

            @pertho Very interesting! I will look into this closely. Thank you.

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            @JulianOliver @pertho yes this is the thing. you can get hold of live streams of newly created TLS certificates, an example https://bencevans.io/security/certificate-stream

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            • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

              I've started to harvest a list of AI crawler endpoint addrs for your blacklisting pleasure.

              I'll try to keep it updated. I've been fastidious with ensuring I'm only pulling those related to the known user agent, so as not to have any false positives

              https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt

              It is at the same path for all contributed domains.

              For instance:

              https://carrot.mro1.de/files/parasites.txt

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              @JulianOliver "parasites" is a great name for this

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              • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

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                Science is Poetry

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                (julianoliver.com)

                The page may grow a bit. Just wanted to get it out the door.

                #AI #bigtech

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                @JulianOliver do you want some subdomains on https://nein.wtf? feel free to pick!

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                • computersandblues@post.lurk.orgC computersandblues@post.lurk.org

                  @JulianOliver do you want some subdomains on https://nein.wtf? feel free to pick!

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                  #60

                  @computersandblues Amazing!

                  Might these be available?

                  - parasit
                  - karotte
                  - ftw

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                  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                    I've started to harvest a list of AI crawler endpoint addrs for your blacklisting pleasure.

                    I'll try to keep it updated. I've been fastidious with ensuring I'm only pulling those related to the known user agent, so as not to have any false positives

                    https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt

                    It is at the same path for all contributed domains.

                    For instance:

                    https://carrot.mro1.de/files/parasites.txt

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                    #61

                    It's approaching DoS at this point. This just one of the VMs, and just OpenAI's parasite.

                    Threading's holding up but need some more tuning of rate limits and burst. Trying sending 429's now to ask them to play nice.

                    To think the www was built for people.

                    And here we are

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                    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                      @computersandblues Amazing!

                      Might these be available?

                      - parasit
                      - karotte
                      - ftw

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                      #62

                      @JulianOliver they are, A and AAAA records already set up

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                      • computersandblues@post.lurk.orgC computersandblues@post.lurk.org

                        @JulianOliver they are, A and AAAA records already set up

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                        @computersandblues Ahh, so good. I'll add them first thing tomorrow. It's evening here. Will let you know as soon as I do 🙂

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                        • pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafeP pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          @dch I would think they would still try the bare/apex domain and "www".
                          @JulianOliver

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                          @pertho in my experience it seems they don’t even bother with wildcard domains @JulianOliver

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                          • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                            Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                            If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                            Link Preview Image
                            Science is Poetry

                            favicon

                            (julianoliver.com)

                            #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

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                            @JulianOliver I have a slew of currently un -used domains. Where do I point them?

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                            • wtl@mastodon.socialW wtl@mastodon.social

                              @JulianOliver I have a slew of currently un -used domains. Where do I point them?

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                              #66

                              @WTL Thanks! Just these two records:

                              A: 95.216.76.85
                              AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

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                              • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                I've started to harvest a list of AI crawler endpoint addrs for your blacklisting pleasure.

                                I'll try to keep it updated. I've been fastidious with ensuring I'm only pulling those related to the known user agent, so as not to have any false positives

                                https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt

                                It is at the same path for all contributed domains.

                                For instance:

                                https://carrot.mro1.de/files/parasites.txt

                                mro@digitalcourage.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Hi @JulianOliver,
                                mind adding a parallel https://cdb.cr.yp.to file?

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                                • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                  It's approaching DoS at this point. This just one of the VMs, and just OpenAI's parasite.

                                  Threading's holding up but need some more tuning of rate limits and burst. Trying sending 429's now to ask them to play nice.

                                  To think the www was built for people.

                                  And here we are

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                                  #68

                                  Hi @JulianOliver,
                                  indeed an act of #hygiene blocking #bot​s: https://doi.org/10.17487/RFC8890 "The Internet is for End Users"

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                                  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                    Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                                    If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                                    Link Preview Image
                                    Science is Poetry

                                    favicon

                                    (julianoliver.com)

                                    #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

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                                    #69

                                    You can add `dreckiger.schleimpilz.ch` to the list. Thanks for all your work!

                                    @JulianOliver

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                                    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                      Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                                      If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      Science is Poetry

                                      favicon

                                      (julianoliver.com)

                                      #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

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                                      @JulianOliver I have a handful of domains that I would love to see used for tarpitting.

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                                      • quite@mstdn.socialQ quite@mstdn.social

                                        @JulianOliver @pertho yes this is the thing. you can get hold of live streams of newly created TLS certificates, an example https://bencevans.io/security/certificate-stream

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                                        @JulianOliver @pertho hopefully there are no longer any newly deployed web services that sit around waiting for setup, with default credentials, or no auth at all...

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                                        • dch@bsd.networkD dch@bsd.network

                                          @pertho in my experience it seems they don’t even bother with wildcard domains @JulianOliver

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                                          #72

                                          @dch This is very good to know!
                                          @JulianOliver

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