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  3. Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

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  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

    Thanks all for the fine domains! I've decided to spin up a new VM and do all the site configs and TLS chain for them at once - more efficient, less prone to error. I will get onto that on my tomorrow and report back here.

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    #46

    Thanks for all the domain donations, a beautiful thing!

    Listed on the landing page:

    Link Preview Image
    SEANCE IS POTTERY

    favicon

    (scienceispoetry.net)

    And copied into this post:

    https://carrot.mro1.de
    https://car.rot.mro1.de
    https://ca.rr.ot.mro1.de
    https://sygrovelaw.co.nz
    https://wholesaletechnology.co.nz
    https://goldenageproductions.co.nz
    https://kginno.eu
    https://outgoing.nz
    https://unbreak.nz
    https://poetry.rainskit.com
    https://poetry.narthur.com
    https://madhattercorp.com
    https://sustainable-collective.org
    https://sustainable-collective.de
    https://c0-cloud.de

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    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

      Thanks for all the domain donations, a beautiful thing!

      Listed on the landing page:

      Link Preview Image
      SEANCE IS POTTERY

      favicon

      (scienceispoetry.net)

      And copied into this post:

      https://carrot.mro1.de
      https://car.rot.mro1.de
      https://ca.rr.ot.mro1.de
      https://sygrovelaw.co.nz
      https://wholesaletechnology.co.nz
      https://goldenageproductions.co.nz
      https://kginno.eu
      https://outgoing.nz
      https://unbreak.nz
      https://poetry.rainskit.com
      https://poetry.narthur.com
      https://madhattercorp.com
      https://sustainable-collective.org
      https://sustainable-collective.de
      https://c0-cloud.de

      julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #47

      I have only linked them here and on the landing page, and already it's gone nuts.

      These are *solely* the new domains you've donated, all in one log. These do not pertain to the project domain.

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      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

        I have only linked them here and on the landing page, and already it's gone nuts.

        These are *solely* the new domains you've donated, all in one log. These do not pertain to the project domain.

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        #48

        I've started to harvest a list of AI crawler endpoint addrs for your blacklisting pleasure.

        I'll try to keep it updated. I've been fastidious with ensuring I'm only pulling those related to the known user agent, so as not to have any false positives

        https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt

        It is at the same path for all contributed domains.

        For instance:

        https://carrot.mro1.de/files/parasites.txt

        netopwibby@social.coopN julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ mro@digitalcourage.socialM jasperbuma@mstdn.socialJ 4 Replies Last reply
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        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

          Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

          Link Preview Image
          Science is Poetry

          favicon

          (julianoliver.com)

          The page may grow a bit. Just wanted to get it out the door.

          #AI #bigtech

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          #49

          @JulianOliver this is the coolest thing I've seen all year, thank you for sharing and making this

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          • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

            I have only linked them here and on the landing page, and already it's gone nuts.

            These are *solely* the new domains you've donated, all in one log. These do not pertain to the project domain.

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            #50

            @JulianOliver I think scraper bots and other parasites constantly scan TLS transparency reports to find new domains to probe. As soon as you have a new certificate, they start hitting your web server.

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            • pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafeP pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafe

              @JulianOliver I think scraper bots and other parasites constantly scan TLS transparency reports to find new domains to probe. As soon as you have a new certificate, they start hitting your web server.

              julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #51

              @pertho Very interesting! I will look into this closely. Thank you.

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              • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                Link Preview Image
                Science is Poetry

                favicon

                (julianoliver.com)

                #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

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                #52

                @JulianOliver heya. How do I donate and configure domains for your experiment? Do they come with any restrictions, i.e. must the FQDNs be in distinct DNS zones, etc? Can easily spin up and configure a few to begin with e.g.

                poetry.zenr.io
                worst.case.zenr.io
                wurst.case.zenr.io
                et.c.

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                • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                  @futuresprog Great, and yes.. precisely!

                  Here you go:

                  A: 95.216.76.85
                  AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

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                  #53

                  @JulianOliver @futuresprog ah, cool to know, thanks. can config a few from this ...

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                  • vortex@tldr.nettime.orgV vortex@tldr.nettime.org

                    @JulianOliver @futuresprog ah, cool to know, thanks. can config a few from this ...

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                    #54

                    @vortex @futuresprog Thanks a lot Adam! Please let me know when you're done. By DM is also fine too.

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                    • pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafeP pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                      @JulianOliver I think scraper bots and other parasites constantly scan TLS transparency reports to find new domains to probe. As soon as you have a new certificate, they start hitting your web server.

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                      #55

                      @pertho @JulianOliver a way around this is to use both DNS and TLS wildcard support - there is no single domain list in the report that can be slopped.

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                      • dch@bsd.networkD dch@bsd.network

                        @pertho @JulianOliver a way around this is to use both DNS and TLS wildcard support - there is no single domain list in the report that can be slopped.

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                        #56

                        @dch I would think they would still try the bare/apex domain and "www".
                        @JulianOliver

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                        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                          @pertho Very interesting! I will look into this closely. Thank you.

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                          #57

                          @JulianOliver @pertho yes this is the thing. you can get hold of live streams of newly created TLS certificates, an example https://bencevans.io/security/certificate-stream

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                          • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                            I've started to harvest a list of AI crawler endpoint addrs for your blacklisting pleasure.

                            I'll try to keep it updated. I've been fastidious with ensuring I'm only pulling those related to the known user agent, so as not to have any false positives

                            https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt

                            It is at the same path for all contributed domains.

                            For instance:

                            https://carrot.mro1.de/files/parasites.txt

                            netopwibby@social.coopN This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #58

                            @JulianOliver "parasites" is a great name for this

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                            • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                              Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

                              Link Preview Image
                              Science is Poetry

                              favicon

                              (julianoliver.com)

                              The page may grow a bit. Just wanted to get it out the door.

                              #AI #bigtech

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                              #59

                              @JulianOliver do you want some subdomains on https://nein.wtf? feel free to pick!

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                              • computersandblues@post.lurk.orgC computersandblues@post.lurk.org

                                @JulianOliver do you want some subdomains on https://nein.wtf? feel free to pick!

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                                #60

                                @computersandblues Amazing!

                                Might these be available?

                                - parasit
                                - karotte
                                - ftw

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                                • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                  I've started to harvest a list of AI crawler endpoint addrs for your blacklisting pleasure.

                                  I'll try to keep it updated. I've been fastidious with ensuring I'm only pulling those related to the known user agent, so as not to have any false positives

                                  https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt

                                  It is at the same path for all contributed domains.

                                  For instance:

                                  https://carrot.mro1.de/files/parasites.txt

                                  julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #61

                                  It's approaching DoS at this point. This just one of the VMs, and just OpenAI's parasite.

                                  Threading's holding up but need some more tuning of rate limits and burst. Trying sending 429's now to ask them to play nice.

                                  To think the www was built for people.

                                  And here we are

                                  mro@digitalcourage.socialM julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ twilliability@genart.socialT paulhanrahan@mastodon.socialP bastelwombat@chaos.socialB 5 Replies Last reply
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                                  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                    @computersandblues Amazing!

                                    Might these be available?

                                    - parasit
                                    - karotte
                                    - ftw

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                                    #62

                                    @JulianOliver they are, A and AAAA records already set up

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                                    • computersandblues@post.lurk.orgC computersandblues@post.lurk.org

                                      @JulianOliver they are, A and AAAA records already set up

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                                      #63

                                      @computersandblues Ahh, so good. I'll add them first thing tomorrow. It's evening here. Will let you know as soon as I do 🙂

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                                      • pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafeP pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                        @dch I would think they would still try the bare/apex domain and "www".
                                        @JulianOliver

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                                        #64

                                        @pertho in my experience it seems they don’t even bother with wildcard domains @JulianOliver

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                                        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                          Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                                          If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                                          Link Preview Image
                                          Science is Poetry

                                          favicon

                                          (julianoliver.com)

                                          #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

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                                          #65

                                          @JulianOliver I have a slew of currently un -used domains. Where do I point them?

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