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  3. Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

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  • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

    I have only linked them here and on the landing page, and already it's gone nuts.

    These are *solely* the new domains you've donated, all in one log. These do not pertain to the project domain.

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    #48

    I've started to harvest a list of AI crawler endpoint addrs for your blacklisting pleasure.

    I'll try to keep it updated. I've been fastidious with ensuring I'm only pulling those related to the known user agent, so as not to have any false positives

    https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt

    It is at the same path for all contributed domains.

    For instance:

    https://carrot.mro1.de/files/parasites.txt

    netopwibby@social.coopN julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ mro@digitalcourage.socialM jasperbuma@mstdn.socialJ 4 Replies Last reply
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    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

      Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

      Link Preview Image
      Science is Poetry

      favicon

      (julianoliver.com)

      The page may grow a bit. Just wanted to get it out the door.

      #AI #bigtech

      lzrd@infosec.exchangeL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #49

      @JulianOliver this is the coolest thing I've seen all year, thank you for sharing and making this

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      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

        I have only linked them here and on the landing page, and already it's gone nuts.

        These are *solely* the new domains you've donated, all in one log. These do not pertain to the project domain.

        pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafeP This user is from outside of this forum
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        #50

        @JulianOliver I think scraper bots and other parasites constantly scan TLS transparency reports to find new domains to probe. As soon as you have a new certificate, they start hitting your web server.

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        • pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafeP pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafe

          @JulianOliver I think scraper bots and other parasites constantly scan TLS transparency reports to find new domains to probe. As soon as you have a new certificate, they start hitting your web server.

          julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #51

          @pertho Very interesting! I will look into this closely. Thank you.

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          • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

            Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

            If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

            Link Preview Image
            Science is Poetry

            favicon

            (julianoliver.com)

            #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

            vortex@tldr.nettime.orgV This user is from outside of this forum
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            #52

            @JulianOliver heya. How do I donate and configure domains for your experiment? Do they come with any restrictions, i.e. must the FQDNs be in distinct DNS zones, etc? Can easily spin up and configure a few to begin with e.g.

            poetry.zenr.io
            worst.case.zenr.io
            wurst.case.zenr.io
            et.c.

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            • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

              @futuresprog Great, and yes.. precisely!

              Here you go:

              A: 95.216.76.85
              AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

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              #53

              @JulianOliver @futuresprog ah, cool to know, thanks. can config a few from this ...

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              • vortex@tldr.nettime.orgV vortex@tldr.nettime.org

                @JulianOliver @futuresprog ah, cool to know, thanks. can config a few from this ...

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                #54

                @vortex @futuresprog Thanks a lot Adam! Please let me know when you're done. By DM is also fine too.

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                • pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafeP pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  @JulianOliver I think scraper bots and other parasites constantly scan TLS transparency reports to find new domains to probe. As soon as you have a new certificate, they start hitting your web server.

                  dch@bsd.networkD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #55

                  @pertho @JulianOliver a way around this is to use both DNS and TLS wildcard support - there is no single domain list in the report that can be slopped.

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                  • dch@bsd.networkD dch@bsd.network

                    @pertho @JulianOliver a way around this is to use both DNS and TLS wildcard support - there is no single domain list in the report that can be slopped.

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                    #56

                    @dch I would think they would still try the bare/apex domain and "www".
                    @JulianOliver

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                    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                      @pertho Very interesting! I will look into this closely. Thank you.

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                      #57

                      @JulianOliver @pertho yes this is the thing. you can get hold of live streams of newly created TLS certificates, an example https://bencevans.io/security/certificate-stream

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                      • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                        I've started to harvest a list of AI crawler endpoint addrs for your blacklisting pleasure.

                        I'll try to keep it updated. I've been fastidious with ensuring I'm only pulling those related to the known user agent, so as not to have any false positives

                        https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt

                        It is at the same path for all contributed domains.

                        For instance:

                        https://carrot.mro1.de/files/parasites.txt

                        netopwibby@social.coopN This user is from outside of this forum
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                        wrote last edited by
                        #58

                        @JulianOliver "parasites" is a great name for this

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                        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                          Pleased to share a page and explainer for the AI tarpit project Science is Poetry, with legal statement, rationale(s), and a few deployment notes:

                          Link Preview Image
                          Science is Poetry

                          favicon

                          (julianoliver.com)

                          The page may grow a bit. Just wanted to get it out the door.

                          #AI #bigtech

                          computersandblues@post.lurk.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          computersandblues@post.lurk.org
                          wrote last edited by
                          #59

                          @JulianOliver do you want some subdomains on https://nein.wtf? feel free to pick!

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                          • computersandblues@post.lurk.orgC computersandblues@post.lurk.org

                            @JulianOliver do you want some subdomains on https://nein.wtf? feel free to pick!

                            julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                            wrote last edited by
                            #60

                            @computersandblues Amazing!

                            Might these be available?

                            - parasit
                            - karotte
                            - ftw

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                            • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                              I've started to harvest a list of AI crawler endpoint addrs for your blacklisting pleasure.

                              I'll try to keep it updated. I've been fastidious with ensuring I'm only pulling those related to the known user agent, so as not to have any false positives

                              https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt

                              It is at the same path for all contributed domains.

                              For instance:

                              https://carrot.mro1.de/files/parasites.txt

                              julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              julianoliver@mastodon.social
                              wrote last edited by
                              #61

                              It's approaching DoS at this point. This just one of the VMs, and just OpenAI's parasite.

                              Threading's holding up but need some more tuning of rate limits and burst. Trying sending 429's now to ask them to play nice.

                              To think the www was built for people.

                              And here we are

                              mro@digitalcourage.socialM julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ twilliability@genart.socialT paulhanrahan@mastodon.socialP bastelwombat@chaos.socialB 5 Replies Last reply
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                              • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                @computersandblues Amazing!

                                Might these be available?

                                - parasit
                                - karotte
                                - ftw

                                computersandblues@post.lurk.orgC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #62

                                @JulianOliver they are, A and AAAA records already set up

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                                • computersandblues@post.lurk.orgC computersandblues@post.lurk.org

                                  @JulianOliver they are, A and AAAA records already set up

                                  julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #63

                                  @computersandblues Ahh, so good. I'll add them first thing tomorrow. It's evening here. Will let you know as soon as I do 🙂

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                                  • pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafeP pertho@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                    @dch I would think they would still try the bare/apex domain and "www".
                                    @JulianOliver

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                                    #64

                                    @pertho in my experience it seems they don’t even bother with wildcard domains @JulianOliver

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                                    • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                      Do you have an unused domain that you would be happy to donate to a counter-offensive against unchecked & unregulated AI crawlers that scrape human-made content to simulate & deceive for profit?

                                      If so, pls reply to this post. Your domain would become an entrypoint to the AI tarpit & Poison-as-a-Service project below, allowing concerned public to choose to use it on their sites, helping make the project more resilient to blacklisting.

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      Science is Poetry

                                      favicon

                                      (julianoliver.com)

                                      #ai #bigtech #tacticalmedia

                                      wtl@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #65

                                      @JulianOliver I have a slew of currently un -used domains. Where do I point them?

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                                      • wtl@mastodon.socialW wtl@mastodon.social

                                        @JulianOliver I have a slew of currently un -used domains. Where do I point them?

                                        julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        julianoliver@mastodon.social
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #66

                                        @WTL Thanks! Just these two records:

                                        A: 95.216.76.85
                                        AAAA: 2a01:4f9:2b:c83::2

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                                        • julianoliver@mastodon.socialJ julianoliver@mastodon.social

                                          I've started to harvest a list of AI crawler endpoint addrs for your blacklisting pleasure.

                                          I'll try to keep it updated. I've been fastidious with ensuring I'm only pulling those related to the known user agent, so as not to have any false positives

                                          https://scienceispoetry.net/files/parasites.txt

                                          It is at the same path for all contributed domains.

                                          For instance:

                                          https://carrot.mro1.de/files/parasites.txt

                                          mro@digitalcourage.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          mro@digitalcourage.social
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #67

                                          Hi @JulianOliver,
                                          mind adding a parallel https://cdb.cr.yp.to file?

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