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  3. I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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  • zebidijah@mastodon.socialZ zebidijah@mastodon.social

    @bodil this could legitimately be awesome!

    .....but it won't. because it's canonical....

    if they shipped an optional expanded version, that included small local llm (like 2b or 4b-ish sized) trained only and exclusively help you troubleshoot and script, that would be awesome!
    i don't need it to write me a workout routine or draw me a stupid picture, i need it to show me im a fucking idiot who expected 'ip' command to behave the same was as the 'ls' does in terms of syntax

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    @zebidijah Idk what exactly they're planning, but the words "agentic workflows" have been said, so I'm expecting the worst.

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    • crow@cville.onlineC crow@cville.online

      @bodil What do you think is a good replacement for Ubuntu for a relatively unskilled #Linux user? I won’t tolerate #aislop.

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      @crow @bodil

      'what distro should i....' stop. the answer is always Mint. if you are not sure which distro is for you, then mint is the distro for you. in the context of this conversation, LMDE (Debian edition)

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      • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

        RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

        I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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        @bodil I wasn't really thinking about Canonical, but this makes perfect sense. They've always struggled to build any community around their development (mostly because of their CLA), the name "Canonical" has always been an ironic joke, so they've never had the resources to generate code to match their ambition, but with LLM-based statistical code generation they *do*. They have a sycophantic agent to replace the community they could never have and can generate a castle of ambition built out of all the low-quality code they want.

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        • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

          @zebidijah Idk what exactly they're planning, but the words "agentic workflows" have been said, so I'm expecting the worst.

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          @bodil same.... i feel like it's probably going to be a direct partnership with either openAI or Anthropic

          with lots of loud and splashy announcements to maximize 'shareholder value' 🤮

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          • crow@cville.onlineC crow@cville.online

            @bodil @kernelvoid But would that mean #zorin will end up infected witih #aislop?

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            @crow @bodil yes, I advise you use #archLinux though the installation process and the maintenance is a pain but it's worth it

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            • raphael@mastodon.sdf.orgR raphael@mastodon.sdf.org

              @bodil I think so much about canonical asking people about what their ranking was in high school

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              @raphael @bodil And the “Please write an essay why you like Shuttleworth. This is not a cult. Promise!” part of the application process.

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              • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                @VANTABlack2000 I wouldn't expect something like Mint, which is already pretty far removed from Ubuntu's default setup, to automatically adopt Ubuntu's worse choices in this case, but I don't know the specifics of what Canonical is planning to ship, so I can't say for sure.

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                @bodil @VANTABlack2000

                When Ubuntu made the bad decision to look like a phone everywhere with Unity, Mint went the opposite direction. So maybe Mint has more sense.

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                • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                  Just for reference, if this has you finally thinking of getting rid of Ubuntu: https://social.treehouse.systems/@bodil/115889714321160414

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                  @bodil

                  Sigh. Wish I could say I was surprised, but they've been going the wrong way for a while now.

                  I took a look at Aurora, but unfortunately I don't see an easy way to get an ISO for ARM64. In 2026, that feels like a nonstarter for any serious distro.

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                  • soph@grrl.meS soph@grrl.me

                    @bodil

                    Sigh. Wish I could say I was surprised, but they've been going the wrong way for a while now.

                    I took a look at Aurora, but unfortunately I don't see an easy way to get an ISO for ARM64. In 2026, that feels like a nonstarter for any serious distro.

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                    @soph I can't agree, ARM isn't really statistically significant for distro makers below a certain scale. I'm told Fedora baseline has good ARM support.

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                    • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                      @soph I can't agree, ARM isn't really statistically significant for distro makers below a certain scale. I'm told Fedora baseline has good ARM support.

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                      @bodil possibly, though I tend to think not in overall numbers, but in groups of users. I know a lot of devs with mac machines because they're efficient for builds. An intel/amd-only distro is going to perform far slower as a VM on a mac than a ARM64 distro would, for example.

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                      • soph@grrl.meS soph@grrl.me

                        @bodil possibly, though I tend to think not in overall numbers, but in groups of users. I know a lot of devs with mac machines because they're efficient for builds. An intel/amd-only distro is going to perform far slower as a VM on a mac than a ARM64 distro would, for example.

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                        @soph That's probably not the kind of distro I'd want to recommend people install on their Ubuntu laptops, though.

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                        • bodil@social.treehouse.systemsB bodil@social.treehouse.systems

                          RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                          I've been warning people about Canonical and their bad decisions for over a decade, and even I didn't expect this one.

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                          @bodil I switched to CachyOS in January and I’ve been very happy with it

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                          • soph@grrl.meS soph@grrl.me

                            @bodil possibly, though I tend to think not in overall numbers, but in groups of users. I know a lot of devs with mac machines because they're efficient for builds. An intel/amd-only distro is going to perform far slower as a VM on a mac than a ARM64 distro would, for example.

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                            @soph @bodil this is why I didn’t give Aurora a spin.

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