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  • onepunchmango@radikal.socialO onepunchmango@radikal.social

    @707Kat they argue and explain heavily against their usage and limitations in most things, and eloquently so. It's a good way both to keep up with* recent developments, learn, and get the vocabluary to talk about it with other people.

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    #52

    @onepunchmango I'm aware of what the EFF do. I'm not saying they don't do a lot of good. However, they are not against LLMs and up until recently they were positive about its usage. Even though the technology inherently relies on voiding people's privacy. For the longest time they cheered on it as a way to beat Copyright and boost free information, ignoring people who tried to explain why it would be damaging.

    Try taking a look at how this page has changed this month:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20260000000000*/https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/effs-policy-llm-assisted-contributions-our-open-source-projects

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    • standard_phil@infosec.exchangeS standard_phil@infosec.exchange

      @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante Anil Dash @anildash belongs on your list, I think.

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      #53

      @Standard_Phil @_elena @timnitGebru @emilymbender @alexhanna @DAIR @cwebber @jaredwhite @tante I think they’re all real researchers, I’m just a commentator here.

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      • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

        Dear Fedi friends,

        I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

        Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

        Do you have any recommendations?

        So far, at the top of my list I have:

        @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

        plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

        Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

        esi@merveilles.townE This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #54

        @_elena You might want to check out @rysiek and his blog at https://rys.io/en/index.html

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        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

          Dear Fedi friends,

          I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

          Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

          Do you have any recommendations?

          So far, at the top of my list I have:

          @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

          plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

          Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

          eivind@mastodon.fjerland.noE This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote last edited by
          #55

          @_elena I certainly don't expect to be on such a list, but I sympahtise, and I am of course strongly opposed to LLMs. I think you got good suggestions already, so I'll just chime in to say I agree.

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          • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

            Dear Fedi friends,

            I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

            Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

            Do you have any recommendations?

            So far, at the top of my list I have:

            @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

            plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

            Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

            onepict@chaos.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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            wrote last edited by
            #56

            @_elena We also have projects that are explicitly not accepting AI like @gentoo .

            We also have folk like @xgranade who is working on a fork of calibre. Which I am very grateful for.

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            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

              Dear Fedi friends,

              I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

              Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

              Do you have any recommendations?

              So far, at the top of my list I have:

              @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

              plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

              Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

              fasterandworse@hci.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #57

              @_elena @zzt @davidgerard @froztbyte @kimcrawley / @crowgirl

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              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                Dear Fedi friends,

                I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                Do you have any recommendations?

                So far, at the top of my list I have:

                @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                glamcode@openbiblio.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                #58

                @_elena I have a “Critical AI reading list” on Mastodon that contains among others and among the ones you listed:

                - @baldur
                - @RainerMuehlhoff
                - @Weizenbaum_Institut
                - @olivia
                - @quinta
                - @lapcatsoftware
                - @dylan

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                • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                  Dear Fedi friends,

                  I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                  Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                  Do you have any recommendations?

                  So far, at the top of my list I have:

                  @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                  plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                  Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                  brib@disabled.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                  wrote last edited by
                  #59

                  @_elena I'm noisy enough about it to release a slopfree index and blog about it a bit, although I try (only semi-successfully) to balance out my feed with stuff that isn't AI

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                  • glamcode@openbiblio.socialG glamcode@openbiblio.social

                    @_elena I have a “Critical AI reading list” on Mastodon that contains among others and among the ones you listed:

                    - @baldur
                    - @RainerMuehlhoff
                    - @Weizenbaum_Institut
                    - @olivia
                    - @quinta
                    - @lapcatsoftware
                    - @dylan

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #60

                    @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

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                    • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                      @davidgerard THANK YOU!!!

                      kimcrawley@zeroes.caK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      wrote last edited by
                      #61

                      @_elena @davidgerard ❤️

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                      • esi@merveilles.townE esi@merveilles.town

                        @_elena You might want to check out @rysiek and his blog at https://rys.io/en/index.html

                        rysiek@mstdn.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #62

                        @esi @_elena henlo 👋

                        I also write critically about tech, including "AI", for Polish media, specifically OKO.press:
                        https://oko.press/autor/michal-rysiek-wozniak

                        Some relevant examples:
                        https://oko.press/sztuczna-inteligencja-prace-nam-zabiera-czy-to-tylko-bajera
                        https://oko.press/chinski-deepseek-upuscil-powietrza-z-amerykanskiej-banki-ai-co-teraz
                        https://oko.press/ai-nie-rozwiaze-kryzysu-klimatycznego

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                        • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                          @kawunngg YES of course!!! I LOVE his work ❤️

                          @davidrevoy

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                          wrote last edited by
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                          @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                          The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                          “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                          (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

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                          • lapcatsoftware@mastodon.socialL lapcatsoftware@mastodon.social

                            @glamcode @_elena Don’t read me! I don’t even pretend to be an expert. I just rant sometimes. 😉

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                            #64

                            @lapcatsoftware @_elena Ranting counts as „publicly resisting“ 😝

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                            • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                              Dear Fedi friends,

                              I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                              Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                              Do you have any recommendations?

                              So far, at the top of my list I have:

                              @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                              plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                              Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                              hikingdude@mastodon.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                              wrote last edited by
                              #65

                              @_elena
                              That's difficult.
                              Aislop and hype are one side, there are good uses for it as well. So, just blaming LLMs feels like blaming a knife for murder.

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                              • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                Dear Fedi friends,

                                I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                Do you have any recommendations?

                                So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                wrote last edited by
                                #66

                                @_elena
                                Outside of academia, yours truly was likely one of the first ones.

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                                • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                  @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                                  The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                                  “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                                  (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

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                                  #67

                                  @davidrevoy Let's all make something imperfect, as an act of resistance. 🦜

                                  🙂

                                  @_elena @kawunngg

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                                  • _elena@mastodon.social_ _elena@mastodon.social

                                    Dear Fedi friends,

                                    I'd like to put together a list of people who are publicly resisting / calling out LLMs and AI slop.

                                    Why? I enjoy reading my Fediverse feed in topical lists and I need something to counteract the unrelenting AI hype I see in the media.

                                    Do you have any recommendations?

                                    So far, at the top of my list I have:

                                    @timnitGebru @emilymbender and @alexhanna of @DAIR

                                    plus @cwebber @jaredwhite and @tante

                                    Anyone else to recommend who advocates for #NoAI?

                                    dataknightmare@mastodon.xyzD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #68

                                    @_elena also consider David Gerard @davidgerard (his wonderful Pivot to AI podcast is a gem)

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                                    • davidrevoy@framapiaf.orgD davidrevoy@framapiaf.org

                                      @_elena @kawunngg Thank you!

                                      The sentence that inspired most of my humble resistance, was the one I read by the author of Nepenthes:

                                      “I’m just fed up, and you know what? Let’s fight back, even if it’s not successful. Be indigestible. Grow spikes.”

                                      (src: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/01/ai-haters-build-tarpits-to-trap-and-trick-ai-scrapers-that-ignore-robots-txt/ )

                                      707kat@mastodon.art7 This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #69

                                      @davidrevoy Been a fan since I first saw your beautiful illustrations on @Framasoft years back and your comic contributions and words in the fight against Loud Literal Machines TM has made me smile so much.

                                      Thank you, David!

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                                      • ckl@ioc.exchangeC ckl@ioc.exchange

                                        @_elena @jwildeboer @jan
                                        I had the very same idea for such a story as well, although apparently vi is out of scope now
                                        https://ioc.exchange/@CKL/116161896679343123

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                                        #70

                                        @CKL #EVi to the rescue! https://mastodon.social/@mrmasterkeyboard/116206795065369412

                                        @_elena @jwildeboer @jan

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                                        • romuald@piaille.frR romuald@piaille.fr

                                          @_elena Pas immédiatement l’IA, mais sur la matérialité du numérique et des centres de données il y a @lenuageetaitsousnospieds et @tunubesecamirio . @Aepasek a publié une très bonne brochure sur comment résister aux datacenters, et sur la géopolitique du numérique je ne peux que conseiller le livre de @opheliecoelho ! @dataforgood fait du bon boulot également 👍

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #71

                                          @romuald @_elena @lenuageetaitsousnospieds @tunubesecamirio @opheliecoelho @dataforgood

                                          merci!

                                          Si un veux le lire: https://emmlab.info/Resources_page/Lutter%20contre%20les%20data%20centers.pdf

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