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  • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

    One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

    Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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    #56

    @streetartutopia I think it very likely that the above image is AI-generated, as it's just too perfect. I highly recommend you take down this post. There's plenty of real images of the genocide in Gaza to use.

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    • parmon@masto.esP parmon@masto.es

      @Cyrille37 @streetartutopia hi, it's been noticed that the source is AI

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      failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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      @Parmon @Cyrille37 @streetartutopia

      I have also been looking for a souce, and was unable to find one, although I'm not that good at G searches and I don't speak arabic

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      • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

        One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

        Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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        failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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        @streetartutopia

        @MarianneTiel
        @thejessiekirk
        @pa27

        can anyone verify this particular image ?
        I did some google searches and failed, but that doesn't mean that much

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        • zeri@chaos.socialZ zeri@chaos.social

          @ojelabii @yonkeltron @streetartutopia do the test in the other direction, are chinese pointing to Israel to defend their little genocide? Are people defending ISIS with "look at Israel"? Are Iranians defending their brutal murder of tens of thousands of citizens with Israels conduct? Well they don't where I live. Here all that stuff is called out in the media except for Israel, somehow for that we deliver explosives while the rest of the world keeps telling us to stop delivering weapons.

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          @zeri Again: I never said that Israels actions where okay, because of what others did, did I? Didn't I already agreed, that Israels attacks may count as warcrimes and may be discussed at court one day? Where do you see me justifying Israels actions by simply pointing out other bullies in the game? Hamas declared openly for decades that they would annihilate Israel if they've been given the chance, yet you point only at Israel, whilst declaring genocidal ideations?
          @yonkeltron @streetartutopia

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          • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

            @zeri Firstly: That comparison »is« devastating. Secondly: If you write "nothing justifies this" … would that count for the Hamas »as well« (which knowingly started this all with their October 7 attacks from 2023)?
            @streetartutopia

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            @ojelabii @zeri @streetartutopia And just like that, he jumps 75 years of ethnic cleansing to "but Hamas is also bad".
            I think a #GenocideinGaza surpasses any excuse.
            By the way,go and find reports from NYT and even Haaretz investigating the #hannibaldoctrine applied by #IsraelTerroristState during 7th October and count who killed who.
            Everything else is just #badhasbara
            #FreePalestine

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            • F failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to

              @streetartutopia

              @MarianneTiel
              @thejessiekirk
              @pa27

              can anyone verify this particular image ?
              I did some google searches and failed, but that doesn't mean that much

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              @failedLyndonLaRouchite I don't think the top image is genuine. The bottom image may be a real destroyed city. @streetartutopia @MarianneTiel @pa27

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              • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                @zeri "[…] insisting one crime is ok because someone else is doing something similar or worse". It's rather the other way around in my case! I do not say, that one crime is okay. What I try to say is: please don't overlook those other crimes by focusing alone on this one. (I do not say, that you did so, but many does, in my perception.) This one crime is a crime and a crime is never good. But let us not close our eyes to all the other crimes to only highlight this.
                @yonkeltron @streetartutopia

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                @ojelabii @zeri@chaos.social @streetartutopia peace is the answer. Simply.

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                • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

                  @failedLyndonLaRouchite I don't think the top image is genuine. The bottom image may be a real destroyed city. @streetartutopia @MarianneTiel @pa27

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                  failedlyndonlarouchite@mas.to
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                  @thejessiekirk @streetartutopia @MarianneTiel @pa27

                  that is my conclusion

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                  • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                    @zeri Again: I never said that Israels actions where okay, because of what others did, did I? Didn't I already agreed, that Israels attacks may count as warcrimes and may be discussed at court one day? Where do you see me justifying Israels actions by simply pointing out other bullies in the game? Hamas declared openly for decades that they would annihilate Israel if they've been given the chance, yet you point only at Israel, whilst declaring genocidal ideations?
                    @yonkeltron @streetartutopia

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                    @ojelabii @yonkeltron @streetartutopia yes, yes you did. But do you see how I am concerned that my taxes are used to support one crime making me complicit in my view? We couldn't even put sanctions on a few violent settlers until Orban was out of office. When it comes to Iran my government has sanctions ready to go any time. With Israel we literally sabotage any effort, and as a citizen I bear the moral responsibility, it's democracy. you are not in the clear just because you don't like it.

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                    • walruths@mastodon.socialW walruths@mastodon.social

                      @ifrauding @leeloo

                      Comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is absolutely insane.

                      Israel got away with it.

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                      @Walruths @ifrauding @leeloo so far.

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                        @rkd993 @ojelabii @gkrnours @streetartutopia I think that whole "the middle east history is complicated" is a rethorical trap when used to suggest we shouldn't form an opinion about the present because of the past. Someone with a view like "the history of the middle east is just people that don't like each other murdering each other in droves." might be wrong or oversimplifying but they wouldn't be wrong categorically.

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                        • zeri@chaos.socialZ zeri@chaos.social

                          @ojelabii @gkrnours @streetartutopia I agree on every point but the last one. People are demanding that Israel gets the same condemnation for the same act which is clearly not happening if you live in the EU. We don't have a trade association agreement with ISIS, we don't deliver weapons to Iran, and we aren't financing the genocide in Sudan. But for Israel somehow we keep doing that stuff to a degree that implies complicity not just looking away.

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                          @zeri At least we're not doing the latter »that openly«, agreed. Coming from Germany myself I must admit though "why" Israel is special there.

                          Yet Israel is definitely a democracy, ISIS isn't (or wasn't) even a real state and definitely, like Iran, not democratic at all. Maybe that makes a difference as well? That it currently is led by extrem rightwinger people, extreme fundamentalists and (I think/guess) rather corrupt politicians (Netanyahu?) worries me too, yes!

                          @gkrnours @streetartutopia

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                          • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                            @zeri At least we're not doing the latter »that openly«, agreed. Coming from Germany myself I must admit though "why" Israel is special there.

                            Yet Israel is definitely a democracy, ISIS isn't (or wasn't) even a real state and definitely, like Iran, not democratic at all. Maybe that makes a difference as well? That it currently is led by extrem rightwinger people, extreme fundamentalists and (I think/guess) rather corrupt politicians (Netanyahu?) worries me too, yes!

                            @gkrnours @streetartutopia

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                            @zeri Therefore I'd wish the state to change its political orientaition (like I do wish the same for the IMHO way too far right leaning politics in current Germany.) Yet I do not wish to deny its right to exist in the first place. (You didn't say so but that demand from Hamas and others is IMHO at the root of this whole debacle.)
                            @gkrnours @streetartutopia

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                            • yonkeltron@jawns.clubY yonkeltron@jawns.club

                              @ojelabii @zeri@chaos.social @streetartutopia peace is the answer. Simply.

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                              @yonkeltron Peace is, or would be the (best) answer, yes! But … it's not easy, not really … unfortunately! — Yet still we shall try, IMHO
                              @streetartutopia

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                              • henry@radikal.socialH henry@radikal.social

                                @streetartutopia hate it when the IDF bombs my 1x1 red wooden outhouse and turns it into a 4x5 concrete ruin

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                                @henry

                                @streetartutopia
                                If you use AI pictures, please mark them as AI.

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                                • quinn9282@mas.toQ quinn9282@mas.to

                                  @streetartutopia Is that bottom image real? It seems absurdly implausible that it could've been taken at the exact same camera angle, height, and location as the first image given the immense destruction that has occurred around where the camera is sitting at? A reverse image search also only turned up a few X accounts reposting it with no source.

                                  (Note: I'm only questioning the validity of that particular image, not the destruction that has actually occurred in Gaza as a whole)

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                                  @Quinn9282 @streetartutopia

                                  The Top Image (Before): Captured by Mustafa Thraya, a prominent Palestinian drone journalist who extensively documented Gaza's landscape from the air before he was tragically killed in an airstrike in January 2024.

                                  The Bottom Image (After): Captured from the exact same flight path by photojournalist Mohammad Ismail Shamallkh to document the extent of the structural destruction along the coastline.

                                  Source: Google

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                                  • zeri@chaos.socialZ zeri@chaos.social

                                    @ojelabii @yonkeltron @streetartutopia yes, yes you did. But do you see how I am concerned that my taxes are used to support one crime making me complicit in my view? We couldn't even put sanctions on a few violent settlers until Orban was out of office. When it comes to Iran my government has sanctions ready to go any time. With Israel we literally sabotage any effort, and as a citizen I bear the moral responsibility, it's democracy. you are not in the clear just because you don't like it.

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                                    @zeri I »do« see how you're concerned there, yes. That I must admit!
                                    @yonkeltron @streetartutopia

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                                    • streetartutopia@mastodon.onlineS streetartutopia@mastodon.online

                                      One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.

                                      Gaza in 2023 and 2026 💔

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                                      @streetartutopia
                                      This seems to be IA generated...

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                                      • ojelabii@norden.socialO ojelabii@norden.social

                                        @zeri Therefore I'd wish the state to change its political orientaition (like I do wish the same for the IMHO way too far right leaning politics in current Germany.) Yet I do not wish to deny its right to exist in the first place. (You didn't say so but that demand from Hamas and others is IMHO at the root of this whole debacle.)
                                        @gkrnours @streetartutopia

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                                        @ojelabii @gkrnours @streetartutopia If law isn't applied equally to all offenders it isn't just. And law without justice is tyrany. Just ask yourself what consequences a settler has to fear if they start beating a old woman to death on camera (looks just like Hamas to me) and compare it to the fate of a palestinian attacking an illegal settlement in the same neighborhood. The IDF kills the one and dismantles his entire street while the other goes home and never sees the inside of a court room.

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                                          @rkd993 True, it didn't started with October the 7th. It started with the Nazis: https://isgap.org/flashpoint/from-hitler-to-hamas-a-genealogy-of-evil/
                                          @gkrnours @zeri @streetartutopia

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