One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.
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@zeri "[…] insisting one crime is ok because someone else is doing something similar or worse". It's rather the other way around in my case! I do not say, that one crime is okay. What I try to say is: please don't overlook those other crimes by focusing alone on this one. (I do not say, that you did so, but many does, in my perception.) This one crime is a crime and a crime is never good. But let us not close our eyes to all the other crimes to only highlight this.
@yonkeltron @streetartutopia@ojelabii @yonkeltron @streetartutopia do the test in the other direction, are chinese pointing to Israel to defend their little genocide? Are people defending ISIS with "look at Israel"? Are Iranians defending their brutal murder of tens of thousands of citizens with Israels conduct? Well they don't where I live. Here all that stuff is called out in the media except for Israel, somehow for that we deliver explosives while the rest of the world keeps telling us to stop delivering weapons.
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One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.
Gaza in 2023 and 2026
@streetartutopia
How it started:
Kibbuz Nir Oz. After Oct 7th 2023, with 1200 persons, women, children, babies, slaughtered, raped, mutilated. 250 hostages taken, kept in tunnels, sexually abused, starved.
https://www.derstandard.at/story/3000000290013/reportage-aus-dem-kibbuz-nir-oz-greifen-sie-wieder-an
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One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.
Gaza in 2023 and 2026
As Muslims we believe in the Afterlife. Everyone will get justice on the Day of Judgment if they don't get justice here in this life. Criminals will be punished severely.
Allah will definitely reward the people of Gaza and Palestine beyond their imagination in the Paradise.
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One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.
Gaza in 2023 and 2026
@streetartutopia Bloody genocidal fuckwits.
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@ojelabii @zeri @streetartutopia it's like saying "that person is a murdered, we'll go to their hometown, kill everyone there and destroy every building".
That's not justice. It's a pretext for senseless barbary.@gkrnours Again, I don't justify how Israel reacted. I simply point out, that Hamas has started it and constantly attacks Israel, which it wishes to be annihilated. I want people to see the whole picture without justifying all of Israels actions. Without the Hamas, there wouldn't be this devastation.
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@gkrnours Again, I don't justify how Israel reacted. I simply point out, that Hamas has started it and constantly attacks Israel, which it wishes to be annihilated. I want people to see the whole picture without justifying all of Israels actions. Without the Hamas, there wouldn't be this devastation.
@zeri @streetartutopia@gkrnours Does that justify everything Israel did? No? Is Israel the one and only bad guy in the room? Nope either? Does Isreal still have a right to exist? Definitely yes! Do people ignore warcrimes unrelated to Israel or jews! Yes and I too wonder why.
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@gkrnours Does that justify everything Israel did? No? Is Israel the one and only bad guy in the room? Nope either? Does Isreal still have a right to exist? Definitely yes! Do people ignore warcrimes unrelated to Israel or jews! Yes and I too wonder why.
@zeri @streetartutopia@ojelabii @gkrnours @streetartutopia I agree on every point but the last one. People are demanding that Israel gets the same condemnation for the same act which is clearly not happening if you live in the EU. We don't have a trade association agreement with ISIS, we don't deliver weapons to Iran, and we aren't financing the genocide in Sudan. But for Israel somehow we keep doing that stuff to a degree that implies complicity not just looking away.
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One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.
Gaza in 2023 and 2026
@streetartutopia I think it very likely that the above image is AI-generated, as it's just too perfect. I highly recommend you take down this post. There's plenty of real images of the genocide in Gaza to use.
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@Cyrille37 @streetartutopia hi, it's been noticed that the source is AI
@Parmon @Cyrille37 @streetartutopia
I have also been looking for a souce, and was unable to find one, although I'm not that good at G searches and I don't speak arabic
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One of the most terrifying images in history: Gaza transformed from life into death.
Gaza in 2023 and 2026
@MarianneTiel
@thejessiekirk
@pa27can anyone verify this particular image ?
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@ojelabii @yonkeltron @streetartutopia do the test in the other direction, are chinese pointing to Israel to defend their little genocide? Are people defending ISIS with "look at Israel"? Are Iranians defending their brutal murder of tens of thousands of citizens with Israels conduct? Well they don't where I live. Here all that stuff is called out in the media except for Israel, somehow for that we deliver explosives while the rest of the world keeps telling us to stop delivering weapons.
@zeri Again: I never said that Israels actions where okay, because of what others did, did I? Didn't I already agreed, that Israels attacks may count as warcrimes and may be discussed at court one day? Where do you see me justifying Israels actions by simply pointing out other bullies in the game? Hamas declared openly for decades that they would annihilate Israel if they've been given the chance, yet you point only at Israel, whilst declaring genocidal ideations?
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@zeri Firstly: That comparison »is« devastating. Secondly: If you write "nothing justifies this" … would that count for the Hamas »as well« (which knowingly started this all with their October 7 attacks from 2023)?
@streetartutopia@ojelabii @zeri @streetartutopia And just like that, he jumps 75 years of ethnic cleansing to "but Hamas is also bad".
I think a #GenocideinGaza surpasses any excuse.
By the way,go and find reports from NYT and even Haaretz investigating the #hannibaldoctrine applied by #IsraelTerroristState during 7th October and count who killed who.
Everything else is just #badhasbara
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@MarianneTiel
@thejessiekirk
@pa27can anyone verify this particular image ?
I did some google searches and failed, but that doesn't mean that much@failedLyndonLaRouchite I don't think the top image is genuine. The bottom image may be a real destroyed city. @streetartutopia @MarianneTiel @pa27
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@zeri "[…] insisting one crime is ok because someone else is doing something similar or worse". It's rather the other way around in my case! I do not say, that one crime is okay. What I try to say is: please don't overlook those other crimes by focusing alone on this one. (I do not say, that you did so, but many does, in my perception.) This one crime is a crime and a crime is never good. But let us not close our eyes to all the other crimes to only highlight this.
@yonkeltron @streetartutopia@ojelabii @zeri@chaos.social @streetartutopia peace is the answer. Simply.
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@failedLyndonLaRouchite I don't think the top image is genuine. The bottom image may be a real destroyed city. @streetartutopia @MarianneTiel @pa27
@thejessiekirk @streetartutopia @MarianneTiel @pa27
that is my conclusion
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@zeri Again: I never said that Israels actions where okay, because of what others did, did I? Didn't I already agreed, that Israels attacks may count as warcrimes and may be discussed at court one day? Where do you see me justifying Israels actions by simply pointing out other bullies in the game? Hamas declared openly for decades that they would annihilate Israel if they've been given the chance, yet you point only at Israel, whilst declaring genocidal ideations?
@yonkeltron @streetartutopia@ojelabii @yonkeltron @streetartutopia yes, yes you did. But do you see how I am concerned that my taxes are used to support one crime making me complicit in my view? We couldn't even put sanctions on a few violent settlers until Orban was out of office. When it comes to Iran my government has sanctions ready to go any time. With Israel we literally sabotage any effort, and as a citizen I bear the moral responsibility, it's democracy. you are not in the clear just because you don't like it.
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@Walruths @ifrauding @leeloo so far.
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@rkd993 @ojelabii @gkrnours @streetartutopia I think that whole "the middle east history is complicated" is a rethorical trap when used to suggest we shouldn't form an opinion about the present because of the past. Someone with a view like "the history of the middle east is just people that don't like each other murdering each other in droves." might be wrong or oversimplifying but they wouldn't be wrong categorically.
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@ojelabii @gkrnours @streetartutopia I agree on every point but the last one. People are demanding that Israel gets the same condemnation for the same act which is clearly not happening if you live in the EU. We don't have a trade association agreement with ISIS, we don't deliver weapons to Iran, and we aren't financing the genocide in Sudan. But for Israel somehow we keep doing that stuff to a degree that implies complicity not just looking away.
@zeri At least we're not doing the latter »that openly«, agreed. Coming from Germany myself I must admit though "why" Israel is special there.
Yet Israel is definitely a democracy, ISIS isn't (or wasn't) even a real state and definitely, like Iran, not democratic at all. Maybe that makes a difference as well? That it currently is led by extrem rightwinger people, extreme fundamentalists and (I think/guess) rather corrupt politicians (Netanyahu?) worries me too, yes!
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@zeri At least we're not doing the latter »that openly«, agreed. Coming from Germany myself I must admit though "why" Israel is special there.
Yet Israel is definitely a democracy, ISIS isn't (or wasn't) even a real state and definitely, like Iran, not democratic at all. Maybe that makes a difference as well? That it currently is led by extrem rightwinger people, extreme fundamentalists and (I think/guess) rather corrupt politicians (Netanyahu?) worries me too, yes!
@zeri Therefore I'd wish the state to change its political orientaition (like I do wish the same for the IMHO way too far right leaning politics in current Germany.) Yet I do not wish to deny its right to exist in the first place. (You didn't say so but that demand from Hamas and others is IMHO at the root of this whole debacle.)
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