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  • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

    @hopeless redhat/rocky never clicked for me. Have been running Debian on Servers for more than 20 years now so I'll probably go that route

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    #27

    @tante @hopeless If you're used to Debian but not desktop Debian, you could try MX-Linux. It's Debian with user-friendly desktop features. Very happy with it.

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    • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

      RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

      Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
      Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

      Strategic genius.

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      #28
      @tante now I'm thinking of when they sent desktop searches to Amazon
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      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

        RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

        Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
        Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

        Strategic genius.

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        #29

        @tante I see Canonical is falling back to the usual "we promise we'll be the ones that do this right, we're careful and considerate!" line. Seems like they step on a rake like this every few years.

        Hopefully KDE Neon keeps this stuff out, I've really grown to like that distro.

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        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

          @hopeless redhat/rocky never clicked for me. Have been running Debian on Servers for more than 20 years now so I'll probably go that route

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          #30

          @tante @hopeless

          An advantage of Rocky for docker containerisation seems to be a really minimal official (below 10MB) image for that, no maintenance burden.
          https://hub.docker.com/r/rockylinux/rockylinux
          Debian official image is around 30MB.

          If you're experienced on Debian, not much difference. May have to install the epel-release package (for instance, fail2ban is available from there , https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/epel/#_quickstart ) which is probably not very intuitive for someone new to the RedHat side.

          dnf provides '*bin/grep'

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          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

            RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

            Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
            Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

            Strategic genius.

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            #31

            @tante I switched from Xubuntu to Manjaro this winter, and is quite happy with it. Supports only 64-bit, which is ok with me.

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            • lrhodes@merveilles.townL lrhodes@merveilles.town

              @tante A recurring pattern I see is of FOSS devs getting drawn into LLMs in limited situations on their own time (Segar: "I've found LLMs to be an excellent learning tool"), and rapidly scaling up integration so that they're soon unavoidable — excuse me: "implicit" — in the projects they maintain.

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              @lrhodes @tante Another pattern that I spot is the “I always work alone” background.

              Guess AI beats working with other people for these folks.

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              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                Strategic genius.

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                #33

                @tante Honestly, surprised that they are beating Fedora to the punch. I have liked being on Fedora, but RH/IBMs nature made it possible that Fedora would do the same, but so far... all they have is a kinda-acceptable AI policy.

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                • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                  RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                  Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                  Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                  Strategic genius.

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                  #34

                  @tante Did you read the full blurb? https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/the-future-of-ai-in-ubuntu/81130

                  > I will not be measuring people at Canonical by how much they use AI, but rather continue to measure them on how well they deliver. AI is not going to take software engineering jobs at Canonical, but other software engineers who are highly competent with AI tools certainly could.

                  Sure thing, just divide the workers more…

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                  • rotnroll666@mastodon.socialR rotnroll666@mastodon.social

                    @tante Did you read the full blurb? https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/the-future-of-ai-in-ubuntu/81130

                    > I will not be measuring people at Canonical by how much they use AI, but rather continue to measure them on how well they deliver. AI is not going to take software engineering jobs at Canonical, but other software engineers who are highly competent with AI tools certainly could.

                    Sure thing, just divide the workers more…

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                    #35

                    @tante Same as Mozilla, pointing to accessibly because that can't be bad, can it?

                    > I don’t see these as “AI features”, I see them as critical accessibility features that can be dramatically improved through the adoption of LLMs with minimal (if any) drawbacks.

                    and so on and so forth.

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                    • rotnroll666@mastodon.socialR rotnroll666@mastodon.social

                      @tante Same as Mozilla, pointing to accessibly because that can't be bad, can it?

                      > I don’t see these as “AI features”, I see them as critical accessibility features that can be dramatically improved through the adoption of LLMs with minimal (if any) drawbacks.

                      and so on and so forth.

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                      #36

                      @tante "Tasteful" for sure…

                      > We’re making plans on how to integrate agentic workflows into Ubuntu for those who want it in a way that feels tasteful,

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                      • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                        RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                        Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                        Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                        Strategic genius.

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                        #37

                        @tante
                        [offtopic] I swear half of the distro/flavor names in this thread are made up 🙂
                        [ontopic] yeah, it seems quite strange to me that canonical is planning to jump on this bandwagon _completely unneccessarily_

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                        • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                          RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                          Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                          Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                          Strategic genius.

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                          #38

                          @tante The push of AI into all the things does make a lot of refugees migrating into different areas of the digital realm. Hopefully this realm does not suffer from the same symptoms as the real world.

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                          • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                            RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                            Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                            Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                            Strategic genius.

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                            #39

                            @tante I always thought of Canonical as the Apple of Linux companies.

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                            • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                              RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                              Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                              Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                              Strategic genius.

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                              #40

                              @tante Idk, I count myself pretty AI skeptical, but after reading the whole thing (https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/the-future-of-ai-in-ubuntu/81130), I must say that I think that’s one of the more considerate stances towards AI that I have read from a tech company in a while. It’s not that Ubuntu (or any Linux desktop environment) has been free from AI before. Thunderbird has spam filters since when? Automatic tagging and face detection in digiKam anyone?

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                              • tante@tldr.nettime.orgT tante@tldr.nettime.org

                                RE: https://masto.ai/@phoronix/116476120066302561

                                Okay gotta migrate off to stock Debian then I guess.
                                Microsoft kills its OS with all the copilot garbage users do not want and Canonical has to go: "Yeah, that's where we need to go."

                                Strategic genius.

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                                @tante
                                Not enough people learned from Ubuntu's past actions.

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