It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague.
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@hacks4pancakes I believe in being culturally sensitive - But that goes both ways!
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I realise it’s a cultural thing and I try to be culturally sensitive but I have plenty of global colleagues from very conservative backgrounds who can make compromises to work respectfully with a diverse team. It’s just too much.
@hacks4pancakes doesn't take a rocket scientist to know to address all parties as part of the conversation lol.
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It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.
@hacks4pancakes we once interviewed somebody who was visibly horrified to see us and wouldn't allow us to explain what coding problem we wanted him to solve, instead making a guess at what it was going to be and doing that
he of course did not get the job
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@geos I can’t hire a consultant to meet with customers if he can’t look at or talk to women
@hacks4pancakes @geos it's a skill issue, obviously.
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It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.
It doesn't matter how "cultural sensitive" you are. If the candidate is not able to treat all humans equally, that's his problem and he shouldn't be hired.
No matter how good he is. He's not a good team player. He's problematic.
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@FurryBeta yes but I managed to not just stop the interview like I wanted mid way. Immense self control
@hacks4pancakes props for that amount of self control!
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@hacks4pancakes we once interviewed somebody who was visibly horrified to see us and wouldn't allow us to explain what coding problem we wanted him to solve, instead making a guess at what it was going to be and doing that
he of course did not get the job
@ireneista Love your avatar!
You dodged a problem there. I hope the interview didn’t waste too much of your time.
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@ireneista Love your avatar!
You dodged a problem there. I hope the interview didn’t waste too much of your time.
@bernardlyons yeah we were able to schedule it near our desk, so not a big deal time-wise. thanks
the avatar's by https://www.crouserart.com/ - we own a print of it, and we figure the least we can do is link when people mention it
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It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.
@hacks4pancakes I’m so sorry. This isn’t cultural it’s just wrong. And if it is the culture then the culture is wrong.
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It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.
Maybe he could've learned something. Tell him right there why the interview's done and he didn't get the job.
Unrelated... I was at the hardware store once looking for something. A female employee asked if I needed help, and I know my face showed "Uh oh, this is pointless". She knew exactly where the part was.
Felt bad afterward. My hesitance was due to employees generally being useless, and I didn't want a search partner, not her sex, but I bet that exactly how she read it
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I realise it’s a cultural thing and I try to be culturally sensitive but I have plenty of global colleagues from very conservative backgrounds who can make compromises to work respectfully with a diverse team. It’s just too much.
@hacks4pancakes when i was 17, i tried to talk to an irish girl once, but she was so beautiful that my mouth just refused to cooperate. Could not speak. Nothing. I'm pretty sure my mouth moved a couple times without any sounds coming out.
Soooo... What I'm saying is, this is almost certainly not what happened to that guy in your interview, but.. Who knows?
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It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.
@hacks4pancakes I once interviewed the CEO of a major Asian tech manufacturer after a speech he gave, and he answered someone standing next to me, a man who wasn't a journalist. I'd ask a question, he answered the man, and so it went. The CEO did not look at me once.
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@hacks4pancakes I once interviewed the CEO of a major Asian tech manufacturer after a speech he gave, and he answered someone standing next to me, a man who wasn't a journalist. I'd ask a question, he answered the man, and so it went. The CEO did not look at me once.
@metacurity @hacks4pancakes
Longtime friend of mine, PhD engineer, overachiever — former astronaut corps (she never flew b/c Challenger), Arthur Andersen consultant — started a robotics company (one of many companies she founded) that specialized in "force feedback" (she contributed to the robotic arm on the space shuttle). She was so frustrated by the chauvinism she encountered during Asian business trips (*after* hiring a male partner to accompany her on those trips) that she sold her stake.
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@metacurity @hacks4pancakes
Longtime friend of mine, PhD engineer, overachiever — former astronaut corps (she never flew b/c Challenger), Arthur Andersen consultant — started a robotics company (one of many companies she founded) that specialized in "force feedback" (she contributed to the robotic arm on the space shuttle). She was so frustrated by the chauvinism she encountered during Asian business trips (*after* hiring a male partner to accompany her on those trips) that she sold her stake.@RunRichRun @hacks4pancakes So dispiriting.
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@RunRichRun @hacks4pancakes So dispiriting.
@metacurity @hacks4pancakes
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It finally happened, I interviewed a candidate who would not look at me the entire interview, and answered my questions directly to my male colleague. Who isn’t a DFIR person.
@hacks4pancakes the most highly qualified candidate to replace me when I retired did exactly this. Even though I had introduced my boss, a woman, as the head of the department and the person making the final decision. I even reminded him partway through the interview that he should addressed his answers to her. The last step in our process was an interview with the president, we made sure she told him exactly why he wasn't getting the position.
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@hacks4pancakes the most highly qualified candidate to replace me when I retired did exactly this. Even though I had introduced my boss, a woman, as the head of the department and the person making the final decision. I even reminded him partway through the interview that he should addressed his answers to her. The last step in our process was an interview with the president, we made sure she told him exactly why he wasn't getting the position.
@hacks4pancakes he was a middle-age American white guy, so no cultural issues here just pure misogyny.
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@malveus lol what, of course not
@hacks4pancakes yeah just kidding
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Note to male colleague: When you find yourself in this situation, do not return the look of the candidate. Direct your gaze at your female colleague. It makes it clear that she's the one the answer should be directed to, and perhaps the candidate might figure this out.
Also: not just for interview situations.
Also also: still don't hire the guy.
No. Don't do that. Instead, stop the show and politely remind the applicant WHO IS CONDUCTING THE INTERVIEW:
"One point of clarification, please. I'm here just to observe and record. Ms.Boss [gesture to her] is in charge of the interview and you should direct your answers to her."
If the candidate does not heed this instruction, terminate the interview. Then explain why.
That's it. No need to play games.
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@hacks4pancakes I once interviewed the CEO of a major Asian tech manufacturer after a speech he gave, and he answered someone standing next to me, a man who wasn't a journalist. I'd ask a question, he answered the man, and so it went. The CEO did not look at me once.
@metacurity @hacks4pancakes I've been following UnseenJapan on here and some of the stories they post make me not want to visit Japan despite it being #1 on my list.
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