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  • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

    Good morning to Public Transort Odin

    We are taking the train to go unfuck baby cousin’s malware-addled computer, and hopefully teach her the general idea for salvaging these things herself — she’s a compsci student but compsci programs rarely teach foundational computer unfucking.

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    @0xabad1dea I was always amazed that even back in my Uni days, there were CompSci students who didn't know how to install an operating system, nor assemble a PC from parts.

    Removing malware is definitely a step or five above those on the difficulty ladder, but still.... I just don't understand how people get into CompSci without some fundamental basics they picked up on their own.

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    • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

      Good morning to Public Transort Odin

      We are taking the train to go unfuck baby cousin’s malware-addled computer, and hopefully teach her the general idea for salvaging these things herself — she’s a compsci student but compsci programs rarely teach foundational computer unfucking.

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      #21

      @0xabad1dea @neurovagrant *conductor voice* "Biscuit please. Please have your biscuits out for inspection"

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      • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

        Y’all, baby cousin’s keyboard is German. It was UX hell typing console commands on that thing. You have to use control-alt to type a \

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        @0xabad1dea Microsoft really fucked up when they decided to use alt for shortcut keys instead of its intended purpose of typing alternate characters

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        • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

          Good morning to Public Transort Odin

          We are taking the train to go unfuck baby cousin’s malware-addled computer, and hopefully teach her the general idea for salvaging these things herself — she’s a compsci student but compsci programs rarely teach foundational computer unfucking.

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          #23

          @0xabad1dea https://sl1nk.com/wv3p53g

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          • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

            Y’all, baby cousin’s keyboard is German. It was UX hell typing console commands on that thing. You have to use control-alt to type a \

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            #24

            @0xabad1dea that's the reason why so many foss people are German: typing Windows paths on a German keyboard is terrible, so we use Linux instead and we all know that using Linux is a slippery slope to becoming a foss dev 😉

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            • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

              Y’all, baby cousin’s keyboard is German. It was UX hell typing console commands on that thing. You have to use control-alt to type a \

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              @0xabad1dea that's how we feel about American video game layouts!

              "Oh just use the ~ key! Just press the < key! This feature is mapped to the } key and you can't remap it! Yeah press the key that has the first line of the constitution on it!"

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              • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                Y’all, baby cousin’s keyboard is German. It was UX hell typing console commands on that thing. You have to use control-alt to type a \

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                @0xabad1dea For a second I was all..... how often do you need a backslash?

                And then, my brain figured it out. Windows does still exist, just not for me. 😉

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                • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                  Good morning to Public Transort Odin

                  We are taking the train to go unfuck baby cousin’s malware-addled computer, and hopefully teach her the general idea for salvaging these things herself — she’s a compsci student but compsci programs rarely teach foundational computer unfucking.

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                  @0xabad1dea omgggggg 😍

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                  • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                    Y’all, baby cousin’s keyboard is German. It was UX hell typing console commands on that thing. You have to use control-alt to type a \

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                    @0xabad1dea don't try an AZERTY, all digits are SHIFTed.

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                    • nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                      @0xabad1dea I was always amazed that even back in my Uni days, there were CompSci students who didn't know how to install an operating system, nor assemble a PC from parts.

                      Removing malware is definitely a step or five above those on the difficulty ladder, but still.... I just don't understand how people get into CompSci without some fundamental basics they picked up on their own.

                      larymir@chaos.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #29

                      @nuintari @0xabad1dea I have a masters in computer science and have never assembled a PC from parts (I guess I would be able to that without much googling? But I never tried it)
                      My bachelor's thesis and master's thesis don't even depend on the existence of PCs (as they are on topics in theoretical computer science), computer science has many aspects and you don't even have to be into computers that much to enjoy it

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                      • larymir@chaos.socialL larymir@chaos.social

                        @nuintari @0xabad1dea I have a masters in computer science and have never assembled a PC from parts (I guess I would be able to that without much googling? But I never tried it)
                        My bachelor's thesis and master's thesis don't even depend on the existence of PCs (as they are on topics in theoretical computer science), computer science has many aspects and you don't even have to be into computers that much to enjoy it

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                        @nuintari @0xabad1dea So if you got into it through the aspects that are closely related to math, you didn't necessarily pick up that much stuff about PCs

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                        • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                          Y’all, baby cousin’s keyboard is German. It was UX hell typing console commands on that thing. You have to use control-alt to type a \

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                          @0xabad1dea Honestly when I have to help people, first thing is changing the keyboard to qwerty. I'm better at typing blind then searching on random keyboards...

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                          • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                            Y’all, baby cousin’s keyboard is German. It was UX hell typing console commands on that thing. You have to use control-alt to type a \

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                            @0xabad1dea I feel the pain (even though yes, AltGr exists). Only the French layout is worse. I just use US-Intl no matter what the physical layout is, but I have plenty of colleagues using a German layout even though they spend a lot of time in vim 😩

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                            • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                              Y’all, baby cousin’s keyboard is German. It was UX hell typing console commands on that thing. You have to use control-alt to type a \

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                              @0xabad1dea this is why we use uk-german qwertz

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                              • larymir@chaos.socialL larymir@chaos.social

                                @nuintari @0xabad1dea So if you got into it through the aspects that are closely related to math, you didn't necessarily pick up that much stuff about PCs

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                                @nuintari @0xabad1dea in German computer science is called "Informatik" (a combination of "information" and the suffix "-ik") and doesn't mention 'computers', which I like for exactly that reason: its not just about computers!

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                                • larymir@chaos.socialL larymir@chaos.social

                                  @nuintari @0xabad1dea in German computer science is called "Informatik" (a combination of "information" and the suffix "-ik") and doesn't mention 'computers', which I like for exactly that reason: its not just about computers!

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                                  @nuintari @0xabad1dea (I still think that most people who study computer science, even those who are mostly there for the theoretical computer science, are more into computers and have more practical knowledge about them and their usage than the average person. But I also don't think it's that unusal for this not to be true for single people
                                  But this view is influenced by the fact that my university had a comp sci program that was leaning towards the theoretical aspects)

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                                  • xdydx@mastodon.socialX xdydx@mastodon.social

                                    @0xabad1dea

                                    Uhh.. Really unfortunate line-break there...

                                    Plus, it's not the CompSci student's fault they don't - and can't - teach foundational computing...

                                    But somewhat related...

                                    The Slow Death of the Power User — fireborn

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                                    (fireborn.mataroa.blog)

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                                    @xdydx "We're losing the ability to audit" jumps out at me as making the power shift of appliance-izing everything permanent.

                                    I was nodding along, agreeing about 50%, and then "Let me be specific about the damage. We're losing the ability to audit."

                                    And pow, there it is. We're living in someone else's machine.

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                                    • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                      Good morning to Public Transort Odin

                                      We are taking the train to go unfuck baby cousin’s malware-addled computer, and hopefully teach her the general idea for salvaging these things herself — she’s a compsci student but compsci programs rarely teach foundational computer unfucking.

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                                      @0xabad1dea It always surprises me how bad programmers/compscis are at computers. As soon as many of them have too leave their abstraction they panic. Personally I think knowing how the system actually works makes me better at all parts of using it including programming. But that's rarely what is thought in school.

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                                      • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                                        Good morning to Public Transort Odin

                                        We are taking the train to go unfuck baby cousin’s malware-addled computer, and hopefully teach her the general idea for salvaging these things herself — she’s a compsci student but compsci programs rarely teach foundational computer unfucking.

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                                        @0xabad1dea did you at least get any decent samples lol?

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                                        • nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafeN nuintari@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                          @0xabad1dea For a second I was all..... how often do you need a backslash?

                                          And then, my brain figured it out. Windows does still exist, just not for me. 😉

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                                          @nuintari @0xabad1dea it's a pretty universal escape character in lots of Unix tools too

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