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If you use AI-generated code, you currently cannot claim copyright on it in the US.

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  • jamie@zomglol.wtfJ jamie@zomglol.wtf

    If you use AI-generated code, you currently cannot claim copyright on it in the US. If you fail to disclose/disclaim exactly which parts were not written by a human, you forfeit your copyright claim on *the entire codebase*.

    This means copyright notices and even licenses folks are putting on their vibe-coded GitHub repos are unenforceable. The AI-generated code, and possibly the whole project, becomes public domain.

    Source: https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/LSB/PDF/LSB10922/LSB10922.8.pdf

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    @jamie I am afraid you are confusing registering copyright with the existence of copyright. They are not quite the same, and the differences are important.
    Current law is that any human-created work is automatically copyrighted the moment it is created.
    The link and screenshots you posted aren't about whether the human-written code mixed in with AI-written code is copyrighted—it is—they're about whether the copyright can be _registered_.
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      @jamie I am afraid you are confusing registering copyright with the existence of copyright. They are not quite the same, and the differences are important.
      Current law is that any human-created work is automatically copyrighted the moment it is created.
      The link and screenshots you posted aren't about whether the human-written code mixed in with AI-written code is copyrighted—it is—they're about whether the copyright can be _registered_.
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      @jamie A copyrighted work that isn't registered is still copyrighted. It's not "in the public domain."
      Registration, in the U.S., allows for certain copyright enforcement actions that can't be taken for unregistered works. But whether or not a work is registered has no bearing on whether it is copyrighted vs. in the public domain.
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      • ptesarik@infosec.exchangeP ptesarik@infosec.exchange

        @jmcs the only trouble is that you can't use AI to produce Disney-style movies; if you could, AI would have long been dead
        @jamie @Azuaron @fsinn

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        @ptesarik @jamie @Azuaron @fsinn is that a challenge?

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        • jmcs@social.jsantos.euJ jmcs@social.jsantos.eu

          @ptesarik @jamie @Azuaron @fsinn is that a challenge?

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          @jmcs you bet!
          @jamie @Azuaron @fsinn

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          • jamie@zomglol.wtfJ jamie@zomglol.wtf

            If you use AI-generated code, you currently cannot claim copyright on it in the US. If you fail to disclose/disclaim exactly which parts were not written by a human, you forfeit your copyright claim on *the entire codebase*.

            This means copyright notices and even licenses folks are putting on their vibe-coded GitHub repos are unenforceable. The AI-generated code, and possibly the whole project, becomes public domain.

            Source: https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/LSB/PDF/LSB10922/LSB10922.8.pdf

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            @jamie Just waiting for someone finding derivates of their own GPL code in propritary AI generated code...

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            • fsinn@mas.toF fsinn@mas.to

              @jamie I *am* an IP lawyer and I (along with many others) have been saying it for a while, that if the position the “AI” co’s are taking with respect to the legality of scraping “publicly available” materials were true (that all “publicly available” materials are “public domain” free to be used as raw materials without consent required), then copyright ceases to exist and all their own materials will be free for everyone else to use the very first time they’re leaked. That’ll be fun for the co.

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              @fsinn I am in general in favour of "copyright ceases to exist" tbh since that is in practise the case for most individuals. @jamie

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              • jamie@zomglol.wtfJ jamie@zomglol.wtf

                If you use AI-generated code, you currently cannot claim copyright on it in the US. If you fail to disclose/disclaim exactly which parts were not written by a human, you forfeit your copyright claim on *the entire codebase*.

                This means copyright notices and even licenses folks are putting on their vibe-coded GitHub repos are unenforceable. The AI-generated code, and possibly the whole project, becomes public domain.

                Source: https://www.congress.gov/crs_external_products/LSB/PDF/LSB10922/LSB10922.8.pdf

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                @jamie so proprietary projects that are made with llms can be leaked legally since there's no copyright for it ?

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