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  3. Yesterday I fixed the Fairphone 5 audio on my Archlinux system, just for myself (afaik I'm the only user of my FP5 stuff).

Yesterday I fixed the Fairphone 5 audio on my Archlinux system, just for myself (afaik I'm the only user of my FP5 stuff).

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  • undeadleech@fosstodon.orgU undeadleech@fosstodon.org

    Yesterday I fixed the Fairphone 5 audio on my Archlinux system, just for myself (afaik I'm the only user of my FP5 stuff).

    Within that day, @wrenix submitted a pmOS patch and 3 separate people already approved it (with Luca not even being one of them).

    @FestplattenSchnitzel even ported the fix to the FP4 and tested it.

    PostmarketOS might not be able to win me over from Arch with their software, but the community they managed to build is impressive.

    #linuxmobile #postmarketos #fairphone

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    @UndeadLeech @wrenix @FestplattenSchnitzel

    I feel kinda the same way about Arch. I'll probably never use it, but that wiki of theirs is an incredible gift to the world.

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    • undeadleech@fosstodon.orgU undeadleech@fosstodon.org

      Yesterday I fixed the Fairphone 5 audio on my Archlinux system, just for myself (afaik I'm the only user of my FP5 stuff).

      Within that day, @wrenix submitted a pmOS patch and 3 separate people already approved it (with Luca not even being one of them).

      @FestplattenSchnitzel even ported the fix to the FP4 and tested it.

      PostmarketOS might not be able to win me over from Arch with their software, but the community they managed to build is impressive.

      #linuxmobile #postmarketos #fairphone

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      @UndeadLeech @wrenix out of curiousity: what’s wrong with pmOS’ software stack?

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      • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

        @UndeadLeech @wrenix out of curiousity: what’s wrong with pmOS’ software stack?

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        @hsza
        Nothing, it is a fantastic community and strange how fast there is.
        @UndeadLeech

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        • wrenix@social.chaos.fyiW wrenix@social.chaos.fyi

          @hsza
          Nothing, it is a fantastic community and strange how fast there is.
          @UndeadLeech

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          @wrenix yes but the software stack. why does it not win @UndeadLeech over

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          • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

            @wrenix yes but the software stack. why does it not win @UndeadLeech over

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            @hsza apk is just pacman in worse. Anything pmos can do, Arch can do better.

            The only thing pmos has going for it is out-of-box experience, which is not something I care about. I can build my own packages.

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            • undeadleech@fosstodon.orgU undeadleech@fosstodon.org

              @hsza apk is just pacman in worse. Anything pmos can do, Arch can do better.

              The only thing pmos has going for it is out-of-box experience, which is not something I care about. I can build my own packages.

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              @UndeadLeech @hsza pmOS is just not for you 😛
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              • fun@berkeley.edu.plF fun@berkeley.edu.pl
                @UndeadLeech @hsza pmOS is just not for you 😛
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                @UndeadLeech @hsza one of postmarketOS's goals is to use existing software and contribute upstream. As for postmarketOS custom software, they should be completely distro-agnostic, so they should be able to run on Arch for example, or Debian/Mobian (and indeed, a bunch of pmOS software is packaged and used in Mobian). No one likes vendor lock-in
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                • fun@berkeley.edu.plF fun@berkeley.edu.pl
                  @UndeadLeech @hsza one of postmarketOS's goals is to use existing software and contribute upstream. As for postmarketOS custom software, they should be completely distro-agnostic, so they should be able to run on Arch for example, or Debian/Mobian (and indeed, a bunch of pmOS software is packaged and used in Mobian). No one likes vendor lock-in
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                  @fun Apk being inspired so much by Pacman certainly makes it super easy to port packages over.

                  It would be so much more work if pmos was based on Debian/Fedora instead.

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                  • undeadleech@fosstodon.orgU undeadleech@fosstodon.org

                    @fun Apk being inspired so much by Pacman certainly makes it super easy to port packages over.

                    It would be so much more work if pmos was based on Debian/Fedora instead.

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                    @UndeadLeech it's also inspired by gentoo and such, pacman wasn't the only inspiration 😉
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                    • undeadleech@fosstodon.orgU undeadleech@fosstodon.org

                      @hsza apk is just pacman in worse. Anything pmos can do, Arch can do better.

                      The only thing pmos has going for it is out-of-box experience, which is not something I care about. I can build my own packages.

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                      @UndeadLeech
                      The part which is a little bit better in alpine/PostmarketOS (and maybe Debian based) agains Arch, that the packages for all the CPU architecture are compiled by one (alpine,Debian) project. On ArchLinux it is a mass to decide between archlinuxarm and manjaro and for the different devices sub/private project. Just because archlinux itself compiles just against x86_64 (and not for arm).

                      Second reason against Arch is, that you could only use an bleeding-edge version, which breaks sometimes (because there is "no stable" version).
                      @hsza

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                      • wrenix@social.chaos.fyiW wrenix@social.chaos.fyi

                        @UndeadLeech
                        The part which is a little bit better in alpine/PostmarketOS (and maybe Debian based) agains Arch, that the packages for all the CPU architecture are compiled by one (alpine,Debian) project. On ArchLinux it is a mass to decide between archlinuxarm and manjaro and for the different devices sub/private project. Just because archlinux itself compiles just against x86_64 (and not for arm).

                        Second reason against Arch is, that you could only use an bleeding-edge version, which breaks sometimes (because there is "no stable" version).
                        @hsza

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                        @wrenix Well I use my own Kernel and I've never had the desire to run anything but bleeding edge (I can always downgrade if there's issues). So this really doesn't affect me.

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                        • wrenix@social.chaos.fyiW wrenix@social.chaos.fyi

                          @UndeadLeech
                          The part which is a little bit better in alpine/PostmarketOS (and maybe Debian based) agains Arch, that the packages for all the CPU architecture are compiled by one (alpine,Debian) project. On ArchLinux it is a mass to decide between archlinuxarm and manjaro and for the different devices sub/private project. Just because archlinux itself compiles just against x86_64 (and not for arm).

                          Second reason against Arch is, that you could only use an bleeding-edge version, which breaks sometimes (because there is "no stable" version).
                          @hsza

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                          @wrenix @UndeadLeech @hsza ime arch isn't terribly unstable either
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