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  3. Yesterday I fixed the Fairphone 5 audio on my Archlinux system, just for myself (afaik I'm the only user of my FP5 stuff).

Yesterday I fixed the Fairphone 5 audio on my Archlinux system, just for myself (afaik I'm the only user of my FP5 stuff).

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  • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

    @UndeadLeech @wrenix out of curiousity: what’s wrong with pmOS’ software stack?

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    @hsza
    Nothing, it is a fantastic community and strange how fast there is.
    @UndeadLeech

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    • wrenix@social.chaos.fyiW wrenix@social.chaos.fyi

      @hsza
      Nothing, it is a fantastic community and strange how fast there is.
      @UndeadLeech

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      @wrenix yes but the software stack. why does it not win @UndeadLeech over

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        @wrenix yes but the software stack. why does it not win @UndeadLeech over

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        @hsza apk is just pacman in worse. Anything pmos can do, Arch can do better.

        The only thing pmos has going for it is out-of-box experience, which is not something I care about. I can build my own packages.

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        • undeadleech@fosstodon.orgU undeadleech@fosstodon.org

          @hsza apk is just pacman in worse. Anything pmos can do, Arch can do better.

          The only thing pmos has going for it is out-of-box experience, which is not something I care about. I can build my own packages.

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          @UndeadLeech @hsza pmOS is just not for you 😛
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            @UndeadLeech @hsza pmOS is just not for you 😛
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            @UndeadLeech @hsza one of postmarketOS's goals is to use existing software and contribute upstream. As for postmarketOS custom software, they should be completely distro-agnostic, so they should be able to run on Arch for example, or Debian/Mobian (and indeed, a bunch of pmOS software is packaged and used in Mobian). No one likes vendor lock-in
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            • fun@berkeley.edu.plF fun@berkeley.edu.pl
              @UndeadLeech @hsza one of postmarketOS's goals is to use existing software and contribute upstream. As for postmarketOS custom software, they should be completely distro-agnostic, so they should be able to run on Arch for example, or Debian/Mobian (and indeed, a bunch of pmOS software is packaged and used in Mobian). No one likes vendor lock-in
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              @fun Apk being inspired so much by Pacman certainly makes it super easy to port packages over.

              It would be so much more work if pmos was based on Debian/Fedora instead.

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              • undeadleech@fosstodon.orgU undeadleech@fosstodon.org

                @fun Apk being inspired so much by Pacman certainly makes it super easy to port packages over.

                It would be so much more work if pmos was based on Debian/Fedora instead.

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                @UndeadLeech it's also inspired by gentoo and such, pacman wasn't the only inspiration 😉
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                • undeadleech@fosstodon.orgU undeadleech@fosstodon.org

                  @hsza apk is just pacman in worse. Anything pmos can do, Arch can do better.

                  The only thing pmos has going for it is out-of-box experience, which is not something I care about. I can build my own packages.

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                  @UndeadLeech
                  The part which is a little bit better in alpine/PostmarketOS (and maybe Debian based) agains Arch, that the packages for all the CPU architecture are compiled by one (alpine,Debian) project. On ArchLinux it is a mass to decide between archlinuxarm and manjaro and for the different devices sub/private project. Just because archlinux itself compiles just against x86_64 (and not for arm).

                  Second reason against Arch is, that you could only use an bleeding-edge version, which breaks sometimes (because there is "no stable" version).
                  @hsza

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                    @UndeadLeech
                    The part which is a little bit better in alpine/PostmarketOS (and maybe Debian based) agains Arch, that the packages for all the CPU architecture are compiled by one (alpine,Debian) project. On ArchLinux it is a mass to decide between archlinuxarm and manjaro and for the different devices sub/private project. Just because archlinux itself compiles just against x86_64 (and not for arm).

                    Second reason against Arch is, that you could only use an bleeding-edge version, which breaks sometimes (because there is "no stable" version).
                    @hsza

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                    @wrenix Well I use my own Kernel and I've never had the desire to run anything but bleeding edge (I can always downgrade if there's issues). So this really doesn't affect me.

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                    • wrenix@social.chaos.fyiW wrenix@social.chaos.fyi

                      @UndeadLeech
                      The part which is a little bit better in alpine/PostmarketOS (and maybe Debian based) agains Arch, that the packages for all the CPU architecture are compiled by one (alpine,Debian) project. On ArchLinux it is a mass to decide between archlinuxarm and manjaro and for the different devices sub/private project. Just because archlinux itself compiles just against x86_64 (and not for arm).

                      Second reason against Arch is, that you could only use an bleeding-edge version, which breaks sometimes (because there is "no stable" version).
                      @hsza

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                      @wrenix @UndeadLeech @hsza ime arch isn't terribly unstable either
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