I was reading along and then I got to this part.
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@dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru and if you're 18 you clearly don't have enough perspective yet. We need plurality in representative govt, not age-ism. There are plenty of people aged 60-90 that invented this technology and culture and understand it well, they just aren't politicians. You were posting videos from Al Jourgensen, 67, think he doesn't understand today's culture? He knows how its promoted and licensed pretty well. The problems are the ideas, not the years.
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@dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru and if you're 18 you clearly don't have enough perspective yet. We need plurality in representative govt, not age-ism. There are plenty of people aged 60-90 that invented this technology and culture and understand it well, they just aren't politicians. You were posting videos from Al Jourgensen, 67, think he doesn't understand today's culture? He knows how its promoted and licensed pretty well. The problems are the ideas, not the years.
@prietschka@mastodon.social @ambiguous0@mastodon.social @timnitGebru@dair-community.social
Nope, the geezers gotta go. Average age in the house and senate is, I believe, currently late 50s to early 70s. Unacceptable.
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@dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru and if you're 18 you clearly don't have enough perspective yet. We need plurality in representative govt, not age-ism. There are plenty of people aged 60-90 that invented this technology and culture and understand it well, they just aren't politicians. You were posting videos from Al Jourgensen, 67, think he doesn't understand today's culture? He knows how its promoted and licensed pretty well. The problems are the ideas, not the years.
@ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru No, no, no, the problem is the age and the length of tenure in our legislature,
100% it is the problem. Geezers gotta go. This isn't "ageism" as people, especially old people who do not want to give up power, love to scream.
Sorry, if you're 60 and in Congress, you should be thinking about retirement. If you're 70, you should be required to retire (read: forced out). If you're 80 and in Congress you should've left over a decade ago.
Unnacceptable.
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@ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru No, no, no, the problem is the age and the length of tenure in our legislature,
100% it is the problem. Geezers gotta go. This isn't "ageism" as people, especially old people who do not want to give up power, love to scream.
Sorry, if you're 60 and in Congress, you should be thinking about retirement. If you're 70, you should be required to retire (read: forced out). If you're 80 and in Congress you should've left over a decade ago.
Unnacceptable.
@ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru As I stated above: Rosa de Lauro was first elected in the New Haven area in 1990 and is 83 years old.
A freshman at Yale could've voted for this woman in 1990 at the age of 18 and returned to campus today, or moved back to New Haven this month, and be voting for her in November's election.
That 18 year old would be 54 today.
It is **entirely** unacceptable that these geezers squat in their seats for decades like this.
This isn't ageism.
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@ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru As I stated above: Rosa de Lauro was first elected in the New Haven area in 1990 and is 83 years old.
A freshman at Yale could've voted for this woman in 1990 at the age of 18 and returned to campus today, or moved back to New Haven this month, and be voting for her in November's election.
That 18 year old would be 54 today.
It is **entirely** unacceptable that these geezers squat in their seats for decades like this.
This isn't ageism.
@prietschka @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru sure sounds like it to me. You've lost the battle if you attack their demographics instead the actual issues. Stay focused
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@dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru
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@dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru
50 sounds that old to you huh!?!@prietschka@mastodon.social @alper@sfba.social @timnitGebru@dair-community.social
Yup. You don't hate the elderly enough.
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@prietschka @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru sure sounds like it to me. You've lost the battle if you attack their demographics instead the actual issues. Stay focused
@prietschka@mastodon.social @ambiguous0@mastodon.social @timnitGebru@dair-community.social
Sounds like you don't hate the elderly enough. They overwhelmingly vote for regressive and Fascist policy, and refuse to pay meaningful taxes. They should not have a say in political debates.
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@ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru
76 and saddened by the ageism in this thread. I hate the entrenched Dem Gerontocracy as much as young people do, I just don’t ascribe the problem exclusively to age, so much as the DC bubble these folks have lived in for decades. They listen only to each other, and their donors. What I don’t get is WHY they cling to power, seeking to spend their last coherent years in a toxic environment like DC.
@ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru
These “geezers” have been repeatedly reelected because as incumbents, they get party money and support. Thus the electorate, for my 55 years as a voter, has been continuously forced to choose whichever of 2 candidates will do the least harm. The system is so fucked up that it probably cannot be reformed except by dismantling it and building something else. Just a geriatric old hippie’s opinion…
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@dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru and if you're 18 you clearly don't have enough perspective yet. We need plurality in representative govt, not age-ism. There are plenty of people aged 60-90 that invented this technology and culture and understand it well, they just aren't politicians. You were posting videos from Al Jourgensen, 67, think he doesn't understand today's culture? He knows how its promoted and licensed pretty well. The problems are the ideas, not the years.
@ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru
76 and saddened by the ageism in this thread. I hate the entrenched Dem Gerontocracy as much as young people do, I just don’t ascribe the problem exclusively to age, so much as the DC bubble these folks have lived in for decades. They listen only to each other, and their donors. What I don’t get is WHY they cling to power, seeking to spend their last coherent years in a toxic environment like DC.
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@ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru
These “geezers” have been repeatedly reelected because as incumbents, they get party money and support. Thus the electorate, for my 55 years as a voter, has been continuously forced to choose whichever of 2 candidates will do the least harm. The system is so fucked up that it probably cannot be reformed except by dismantling it and building something else. Just a geriatric old hippie’s opinion…
@prietschka@mastodon.social @ambiguous0@mastodon.social @ceartas@mastodon.world @timnitGebru@dair-community.social
The Geezers ALSO get reelected because Boomers have, for the last 50+ years, held a massively disproportionate amount of political sway as a voting bloc, and they almost exclusively vote for other Boomers. The world was literally rewritten for them in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and they've spent 50 years fighting tooth and bloody nail to make sure they maintained that power through institutional calcification and gerrymandering.
All at the expense of their kids. And their grandkids. And their great grandkids. You can look at the raw statistics; Boomers come out on top in basically every observable metric of wealth and security. They've literally robbed their descendants of a future in order to pad their retirements. And now society is crumbling because they've burned down all the social supports and ways to build wealth or prosperity, just in time for them to die posh deaths in Florida or the Bahamas.
YOU DON'T HATE THE ELDERLY ENOUGH.
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I was reading along and then I got to this part.
"Further, and frighteningly, some very knowledgeable people fear that what was once seen as science fiction could soon become a reality, and that is that superintelligent AI could become smarter than humans, could become independent of human control, and pose an existential threat to the human race. "
Folks, Bernie has been fully captured by the TESCREAL bundle
@timnitGebru CBC podcast with lecture from a literature professor explaining how AI hype has been lifted from sci-fi novels without any intellectual rigor. (ie The AI doomer statements are just quoting golden age of sci-fi tropes as science fact)
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@prietschka@mastodon.social @ambiguous0@mastodon.social @ceartas@mastodon.world @timnitGebru@dair-community.social
The Geezers ALSO get reelected because Boomers have, for the last 50+ years, held a massively disproportionate amount of political sway as a voting bloc, and they almost exclusively vote for other Boomers. The world was literally rewritten for them in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and they've spent 50 years fighting tooth and bloody nail to make sure they maintained that power through institutional calcification and gerrymandering.
All at the expense of their kids. And their grandkids. And their great grandkids. You can look at the raw statistics; Boomers come out on top in basically every observable metric of wealth and security. They've literally robbed their descendants of a future in order to pad their retirements. And now society is crumbling because they've burned down all the social supports and ways to build wealth or prosperity, just in time for them to die posh deaths in Florida or the Bahamas.
YOU DON'T HATE THE ELDERLY ENOUGH.
@dogiedog64 @ambiguous0 @ceartas @timnitGebru Let's just get out of poor Gebru's timeline with this awful thread.
A 76 year old Boomer throwing around self-serving accusations of "ageism" when one plainly states "old people should not hold power forever" is just to be expected.
This woman is part of a generation where any suggestion they cannot hold power forever throws them into an inchoate rage. It's to be expected.
Let's just get out of Gebru's replies.
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