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  • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

    I was reading along and then I got to this part. 🙄

    "Further, and frighteningly, some very knowledgeable people fear that what was once seen as science fiction could soon become a reality, and that is that superintelligent AI could become smarter than humans, could become independent of human control, and pose an existential threat to the human race. "

    Folks, Bernie has been fully captured by the TESCREAL bundle

    Just a moment...

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    @timnitGebru I went looking for a recording, and the one I found matches most of that page but one of the differences is that it doesn’t have that quote or the bits before and after: https://youtu.be/J_L9GS4-XH4

    How else can I confirm that he actually said this?

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    • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

      I was reading along and then I got to this part. 🙄

      "Further, and frighteningly, some very knowledgeable people fear that what was once seen as science fiction could soon become a reality, and that is that superintelligent AI could become smarter than humans, could become independent of human control, and pose an existential threat to the human race. "

      Folks, Bernie has been fully captured by the TESCREAL bundle

      Just a moment...

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      (justfacts.votesmart.org)

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      @timnitGebru
      Is there a practical way to reach Bernie Sanders and re-educate him? Someone in the democratic party who can talk to him?

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      • ambiguous0@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru and if you're 18 you clearly don't have enough perspective yet. We need plurality in representative govt, not age-ism. There are plenty of people aged 60-90 that invented this technology and culture and understand it well, they just aren't politicians. You were posting videos from Al Jourgensen, 67, think he doesn't understand today's culture? He knows how its promoted and licensed pretty well. The problems are the ideas, not the years.

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        • ambiguous0@mastodon.socialA ambiguous0@mastodon.social

          @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru and if you're 18 you clearly don't have enough perspective yet. We need plurality in representative govt, not age-ism. There are plenty of people aged 60-90 that invented this technology and culture and understand it well, they just aren't politicians. You were posting videos from Al Jourgensen, 67, think he doesn't understand today's culture? He knows how its promoted and licensed pretty well. The problems are the ideas, not the years.

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          @prietschka@mastodon.social @ambiguous0@mastodon.social @timnitGebru@dair-community.social

          Nope, the geezers gotta go. Average age in the house and senate is, I believe, currently late 50s to early 70s. Unacceptable.

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          • ambiguous0@mastodon.socialA ambiguous0@mastodon.social

            @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru and if you're 18 you clearly don't have enough perspective yet. We need plurality in representative govt, not age-ism. There are plenty of people aged 60-90 that invented this technology and culture and understand it well, they just aren't politicians. You were posting videos from Al Jourgensen, 67, think he doesn't understand today's culture? He knows how its promoted and licensed pretty well. The problems are the ideas, not the years.

            prietschka@mastodon.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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            @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru No, no, no, the problem is the age and the length of tenure in our legislature,

            100% it is the problem. Geezers gotta go. This isn't "ageism" as people, especially old people who do not want to give up power, love to scream.

            Sorry, if you're 60 and in Congress, you should be thinking about retirement. If you're 70, you should be required to retire (read: forced out). If you're 80 and in Congress you should've left over a decade ago.

            Unnacceptable.

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            • prietschka@mastodon.socialP prietschka@mastodon.social

              @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru No, no, no, the problem is the age and the length of tenure in our legislature,

              100% it is the problem. Geezers gotta go. This isn't "ageism" as people, especially old people who do not want to give up power, love to scream.

              Sorry, if you're 60 and in Congress, you should be thinking about retirement. If you're 70, you should be required to retire (read: forced out). If you're 80 and in Congress you should've left over a decade ago.

              Unnacceptable.

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              @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru As I stated above: Rosa de Lauro was first elected in the New Haven area in 1990 and is 83 years old.

              A freshman at Yale could've voted for this woman in 1990 at the age of 18 and returned to campus today, or moved back to New Haven this month, and be voting for her in November's election.

              That 18 year old would be 54 today.

              It is **entirely** unacceptable that these geezers squat in their seats for decades like this.

              This isn't ageism.

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              • prietschka@mastodon.socialP prietschka@mastodon.social

                @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru As I stated above: Rosa de Lauro was first elected in the New Haven area in 1990 and is 83 years old.

                A freshman at Yale could've voted for this woman in 1990 at the age of 18 and returned to campus today, or moved back to New Haven this month, and be voting for her in November's election.

                That 18 year old would be 54 today.

                It is **entirely** unacceptable that these geezers squat in their seats for decades like this.

                This isn't ageism.

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                @prietschka @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru sure sounds like it to me. You've lost the battle if you attack their demographics instead the actual issues. Stay focused

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                  @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru
                  50 sounds that old to you huh!?!

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                  • alper@sfba.socialA alper@sfba.social

                    @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru
                    50 sounds that old to you huh!?!

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                    @prietschka@mastodon.social @alper@sfba.social @timnitGebru@dair-community.social

                    Yup. You don't hate the elderly enough.

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                    • ambiguous0@mastodon.socialA ambiguous0@mastodon.social

                      @prietschka @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru sure sounds like it to me. You've lost the battle if you attack their demographics instead the actual issues. Stay focused

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                      @prietschka@mastodon.social @ambiguous0@mastodon.social @timnitGebru@dair-community.social

                      Sounds like you don't hate the elderly enough. They overwhelmingly vote for regressive and Fascist policy, and refuse to pay meaningful taxes. They should not have a say in political debates.

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                      • ceartas@mastodon.worldC ceartas@mastodon.world

                        @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru

                        76 and saddened by the ageism in this thread. I hate the entrenched Dem Gerontocracy as much as young people do, I just don’t ascribe the problem exclusively to age, so much as the DC bubble these folks have lived in for decades. They listen only to each other, and their donors. What I don’t get is WHY they cling to power, seeking to spend their last coherent years in a toxic environment like DC.

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                        @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru

                        These “geezers” have been repeatedly reelected because as incumbents, they get party money and support. Thus the electorate, for my 55 years as a voter, has been continuously forced to choose whichever of 2 candidates will do the least harm. The system is so fucked up that it probably cannot be reformed except by dismantling it and building something else. Just a geriatric old hippie’s opinion…

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                        • ambiguous0@mastodon.socialA ambiguous0@mastodon.social

                          @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru and if you're 18 you clearly don't have enough perspective yet. We need plurality in representative govt, not age-ism. There are plenty of people aged 60-90 that invented this technology and culture and understand it well, they just aren't politicians. You were posting videos from Al Jourgensen, 67, think he doesn't understand today's culture? He knows how its promoted and licensed pretty well. The problems are the ideas, not the years.

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                          @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru

                          76 and saddened by the ageism in this thread. I hate the entrenched Dem Gerontocracy as much as young people do, I just don’t ascribe the problem exclusively to age, so much as the DC bubble these folks have lived in for decades. They listen only to each other, and their donors. What I don’t get is WHY they cling to power, seeking to spend their last coherent years in a toxic environment like DC.

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                            @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru

                            These “geezers” have been repeatedly reelected because as incumbents, they get party money and support. Thus the electorate, for my 55 years as a voter, has been continuously forced to choose whichever of 2 candidates will do the least harm. The system is so fucked up that it probably cannot be reformed except by dismantling it and building something else. Just a geriatric old hippie’s opinion…

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                            @prietschka@mastodon.social @ambiguous0@mastodon.social @ceartas@mastodon.world @timnitGebru@dair-community.social

                            The Geezers ALSO get reelected because Boomers have, for the last 50+ years, held a massively disproportionate amount of political sway as a voting bloc, and they almost exclusively vote for other Boomers. The world was literally rewritten for them in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and they've spent 50 years fighting tooth and bloody nail to make sure they maintained that power through institutional calcification and gerrymandering.

                            All at the expense of their kids. And their grandkids. And their great grandkids. You can look at the raw statistics; Boomers come out on top in basically every observable metric of wealth and security. They've literally robbed their descendants of a future in order to pad their retirements. And now society is crumbling because they've burned down all the social supports and ways to build wealth or prosperity, just in time for them to die posh deaths in Florida or the Bahamas.

                            YOU DON'T HATE THE ELDERLY ENOUGH.

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                            • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                              I was reading along and then I got to this part. 🙄

                              "Further, and frighteningly, some very knowledgeable people fear that what was once seen as science fiction could soon become a reality, and that is that superintelligent AI could become smarter than humans, could become independent of human control, and pose an existential threat to the human race. "

                              Folks, Bernie has been fully captured by the TESCREAL bundle

                              Just a moment...

                              favicon

                              (justfacts.votesmart.org)

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                              @timnitGebru CBC podcast with lecture from a literature professor explaining how AI hype has been lifted from sci-fi novels without any intellectual rigor. (ie The AI doomer statements are just quoting golden age of sci-fi tropes as science fact)

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                              • dogiedog64@app.wafrn.netD dogiedog64@app.wafrn.net

                                @prietschka@mastodon.social @ambiguous0@mastodon.social @ceartas@mastodon.world @timnitGebru@dair-community.social

                                The Geezers ALSO get reelected because Boomers have, for the last 50+ years, held a massively disproportionate amount of political sway as a voting bloc, and they almost exclusively vote for other Boomers. The world was literally rewritten for them in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and they've spent 50 years fighting tooth and bloody nail to make sure they maintained that power through institutional calcification and gerrymandering.

                                All at the expense of their kids. And their grandkids. And their great grandkids. You can look at the raw statistics; Boomers come out on top in basically every observable metric of wealth and security. They've literally robbed their descendants of a future in order to pad their retirements. And now society is crumbling because they've burned down all the social supports and ways to build wealth or prosperity, just in time for them to die posh deaths in Florida or the Bahamas.

                                YOU DON'T HATE THE ELDERLY ENOUGH.

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                                @dogiedog64 @ambiguous0 @ceartas @timnitGebru Let's just get out of poor Gebru's timeline with this awful thread.

                                A 76 year old Boomer throwing around self-serving accusations of "ageism" when one plainly states "old people should not hold power forever" is just to be expected.

                                This woman is part of a generation where any suggestion they cannot hold power forever throws them into an inchoate rage. It's to be expected.

                                Let's just get out of Gebru's replies.

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