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  • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

    Sir, as a labor advocate perhaps you can instead talk about the data workers that make it look like there is something "super intelligent" and "smarter than humans"?

    Trust me, any amount of addition of "existential risk" language will veer whatever you want to do in the wrong direction, because this language was created and parroted by the very people proliferating the race and data centers.

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    @timnitGebru These geezers illustrate, over and over, why we as a society cannot afford to have the small number of seats available in our legislature by Methuselahs who are -- I dunno -- reelected in 2024 at age 83?

    Someone was remarking recently that when they graduated from Yale in 1996 the local House rep was Rosa de Lauro, and, today, in 2026, the local House rep is...Rosa de Lauro.

    It's imperative these people are pushed out of power. Guaranteed this is old man credulity with Bernie.

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    • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

      I was reading along and then I got to this part. 🙄

      "Further, and frighteningly, some very knowledgeable people fear that what was once seen as science fiction could soon become a reality, and that is that superintelligent AI could become smarter than humans, could become independent of human control, and pose an existential threat to the human race. "

      Folks, Bernie has been fully captured by the TESCREAL bundle

      Just a moment...

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      @timnitGebru

      Of course with Bernie misses and all this is that EGI is not at all relevant because it’s not possible with the systems they have developed.

      What these systems are good at is search on steroids. It’s ability to not only collect desperate pieces of information to track people like the way Israel uses it to kill leadership and journalist in Gaza, but was also used to kill Iranian leadership, it’s the ability to do it at scale while also injecting misinformation.

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      • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

        @timnitGebru

        Of course with Bernie misses and all this is that EGI is not at all relevant because it’s not possible with the systems they have developed.

        What these systems are good at is search on steroids. It’s ability to not only collect desperate pieces of information to track people like the way Israel uses it to kill leadership and journalist in Gaza, but was also used to kill Iranian leadership, it’s the ability to do it at scale while also injecting misinformation.

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        @timnitGebru

        People who have a good handle on what this technology is really made from, understand it’s a tool for mass manipulation and control totalitarian control.

        And I am greatly believed to see communities in open rebellion against the construction of data centers, and other communities dismantling flock install installation, but now we have this obscenity of age verification, which should be called whatever site you visit knows your name, your age, your income, and where you live

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        • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

          I was reading along and then I got to this part. 🙄

          "Further, and frighteningly, some very knowledgeable people fear that what was once seen as science fiction could soon become a reality, and that is that superintelligent AI could become smarter than humans, could become independent of human control, and pose an existential threat to the human race. "

          Folks, Bernie has been fully captured by the TESCREAL bundle

          Just a moment...

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          @timnitGebru

          Well.. It _is_ frightening that some very knowledgeable people are so enamored of their fantasies that they believe this.

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          • prietschka@mastodon.socialP prietschka@mastodon.social

            @timnitGebru These geezers illustrate, over and over, why we as a society cannot afford to have the small number of seats available in our legislature by Methuselahs who are -- I dunno -- reelected in 2024 at age 83?

            Someone was remarking recently that when they graduated from Yale in 1996 the local House rep was Rosa de Lauro, and, today, in 2026, the local House rep is...Rosa de Lauro.

            It's imperative these people are pushed out of power. Guaranteed this is old man credulity with Bernie.

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            @prietschka@mastodon.social @timnitGebru@dair-community.social

            Term limits on all elected offices sound nice. How about 10 years or 2 terms max, whichever comes first? And also age caps; if you're over 50, stay the FUCK out of politics, because you don't know shit about modern culture anymore.

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            • dogiedog64@app.wafrn.netD dogiedog64@app.wafrn.net

              @prietschka@mastodon.social @timnitGebru@dair-community.social

              Term limits on all elected offices sound nice. How about 10 years or 2 terms max, whichever comes first? And also age caps; if you're over 50, stay the FUCK out of politics, because you don't know shit about modern culture anymore.

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              @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru Imagine graduating from Yale in 1995.

              You're 21 years old, voted in likely two elections where Rosa de Lauro was the incumbent.

              Then, in 2026, you return to Yale for some event, or to drop off your child for classes -- because what is Yale other than a site of class reproduction -- and your child would have opportunity to vote, as you did, for Rosa de Lauro in the November elections.

              That 21 year old would be 51 or 52 years old.

              And de Lauro is STILL in office.

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              • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                I was reading along and then I got to this part. 🙄

                "Further, and frighteningly, some very knowledgeable people fear that what was once seen as science fiction could soon become a reality, and that is that superintelligent AI could become smarter than humans, could become independent of human control, and pose an existential threat to the human race. "

                Folks, Bernie has been fully captured by the TESCREAL bundle

                Just a moment...

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                @timnitGebru I went looking for a recording, and the one I found matches most of that page but one of the differences is that it doesn’t have that quote or the bits before and after: https://youtu.be/J_L9GS4-XH4

                How else can I confirm that he actually said this?

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                • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                  I was reading along and then I got to this part. 🙄

                  "Further, and frighteningly, some very knowledgeable people fear that what was once seen as science fiction could soon become a reality, and that is that superintelligent AI could become smarter than humans, could become independent of human control, and pose an existential threat to the human race. "

                  Folks, Bernie has been fully captured by the TESCREAL bundle

                  Just a moment...

                  favicon

                  (justfacts.votesmart.org)

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                  @timnitGebru
                  Is there a practical way to reach Bernie Sanders and re-educate him? Someone in the democratic party who can talk to him?

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                    @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru and if you're 18 you clearly don't have enough perspective yet. We need plurality in representative govt, not age-ism. There are plenty of people aged 60-90 that invented this technology and culture and understand it well, they just aren't politicians. You were posting videos from Al Jourgensen, 67, think he doesn't understand today's culture? He knows how its promoted and licensed pretty well. The problems are the ideas, not the years.

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                    • ambiguous0@mastodon.socialA ambiguous0@mastodon.social

                      @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru and if you're 18 you clearly don't have enough perspective yet. We need plurality in representative govt, not age-ism. There are plenty of people aged 60-90 that invented this technology and culture and understand it well, they just aren't politicians. You were posting videos from Al Jourgensen, 67, think he doesn't understand today's culture? He knows how its promoted and licensed pretty well. The problems are the ideas, not the years.

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                      @prietschka@mastodon.social @ambiguous0@mastodon.social @timnitGebru@dair-community.social

                      Nope, the geezers gotta go. Average age in the house and senate is, I believe, currently late 50s to early 70s. Unacceptable.

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                      • ambiguous0@mastodon.socialA ambiguous0@mastodon.social

                        @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru and if you're 18 you clearly don't have enough perspective yet. We need plurality in representative govt, not age-ism. There are plenty of people aged 60-90 that invented this technology and culture and understand it well, they just aren't politicians. You were posting videos from Al Jourgensen, 67, think he doesn't understand today's culture? He knows how its promoted and licensed pretty well. The problems are the ideas, not the years.

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                        @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru No, no, no, the problem is the age and the length of tenure in our legislature,

                        100% it is the problem. Geezers gotta go. This isn't "ageism" as people, especially old people who do not want to give up power, love to scream.

                        Sorry, if you're 60 and in Congress, you should be thinking about retirement. If you're 70, you should be required to retire (read: forced out). If you're 80 and in Congress you should've left over a decade ago.

                        Unnacceptable.

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                        • prietschka@mastodon.socialP prietschka@mastodon.social

                          @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru No, no, no, the problem is the age and the length of tenure in our legislature,

                          100% it is the problem. Geezers gotta go. This isn't "ageism" as people, especially old people who do not want to give up power, love to scream.

                          Sorry, if you're 60 and in Congress, you should be thinking about retirement. If you're 70, you should be required to retire (read: forced out). If you're 80 and in Congress you should've left over a decade ago.

                          Unnacceptable.

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                          @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru As I stated above: Rosa de Lauro was first elected in the New Haven area in 1990 and is 83 years old.

                          A freshman at Yale could've voted for this woman in 1990 at the age of 18 and returned to campus today, or moved back to New Haven this month, and be voting for her in November's election.

                          That 18 year old would be 54 today.

                          It is **entirely** unacceptable that these geezers squat in their seats for decades like this.

                          This isn't ageism.

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                          • prietschka@mastodon.socialP prietschka@mastodon.social

                            @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru As I stated above: Rosa de Lauro was first elected in the New Haven area in 1990 and is 83 years old.

                            A freshman at Yale could've voted for this woman in 1990 at the age of 18 and returned to campus today, or moved back to New Haven this month, and be voting for her in November's election.

                            That 18 year old would be 54 today.

                            It is **entirely** unacceptable that these geezers squat in their seats for decades like this.

                            This isn't ageism.

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                            @prietschka @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru sure sounds like it to me. You've lost the battle if you attack their demographics instead the actual issues. Stay focused

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                              @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru
                              50 sounds that old to you huh!?!

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                                @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru
                                50 sounds that old to you huh!?!

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                                @prietschka@mastodon.social @alper@sfba.social @timnitGebru@dair-community.social

                                Yup. You don't hate the elderly enough.

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                                • ambiguous0@mastodon.socialA ambiguous0@mastodon.social

                                  @prietschka @dogiedog64 @timnitGebru sure sounds like it to me. You've lost the battle if you attack their demographics instead the actual issues. Stay focused

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                                  @prietschka@mastodon.social @ambiguous0@mastodon.social @timnitGebru@dair-community.social

                                  Sounds like you don't hate the elderly enough. They overwhelmingly vote for regressive and Fascist policy, and refuse to pay meaningful taxes. They should not have a say in political debates.

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                                  • ceartas@mastodon.worldC ceartas@mastodon.world

                                    @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru

                                    76 and saddened by the ageism in this thread. I hate the entrenched Dem Gerontocracy as much as young people do, I just don’t ascribe the problem exclusively to age, so much as the DC bubble these folks have lived in for decades. They listen only to each other, and their donors. What I don’t get is WHY they cling to power, seeking to spend their last coherent years in a toxic environment like DC.

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                                    @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru

                                    These “geezers” have been repeatedly reelected because as incumbents, they get party money and support. Thus the electorate, for my 55 years as a voter, has been continuously forced to choose whichever of 2 candidates will do the least harm. The system is so fucked up that it probably cannot be reformed except by dismantling it and building something else. Just a geriatric old hippie’s opinion…

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                                    • ambiguous0@mastodon.socialA ambiguous0@mastodon.social

                                      @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru and if you're 18 you clearly don't have enough perspective yet. We need plurality in representative govt, not age-ism. There are plenty of people aged 60-90 that invented this technology and culture and understand it well, they just aren't politicians. You were posting videos from Al Jourgensen, 67, think he doesn't understand today's culture? He knows how its promoted and licensed pretty well. The problems are the ideas, not the years.

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                                      @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru

                                      76 and saddened by the ageism in this thread. I hate the entrenched Dem Gerontocracy as much as young people do, I just don’t ascribe the problem exclusively to age, so much as the DC bubble these folks have lived in for decades. They listen only to each other, and their donors. What I don’t get is WHY they cling to power, seeking to spend their last coherent years in a toxic environment like DC.

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                                        @ambiguous0 @dogiedog64 @prietschka @timnitGebru

                                        These “geezers” have been repeatedly reelected because as incumbents, they get party money and support. Thus the electorate, for my 55 years as a voter, has been continuously forced to choose whichever of 2 candidates will do the least harm. The system is so fucked up that it probably cannot be reformed except by dismantling it and building something else. Just a geriatric old hippie’s opinion…

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                                        @prietschka@mastodon.social @ambiguous0@mastodon.social @ceartas@mastodon.world @timnitGebru@dair-community.social

                                        The Geezers ALSO get reelected because Boomers have, for the last 50+ years, held a massively disproportionate amount of political sway as a voting bloc, and they almost exclusively vote for other Boomers. The world was literally rewritten for them in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and they've spent 50 years fighting tooth and bloody nail to make sure they maintained that power through institutional calcification and gerrymandering.

                                        All at the expense of their kids. And their grandkids. And their great grandkids. You can look at the raw statistics; Boomers come out on top in basically every observable metric of wealth and security. They've literally robbed their descendants of a future in order to pad their retirements. And now society is crumbling because they've burned down all the social supports and ways to build wealth or prosperity, just in time for them to die posh deaths in Florida or the Bahamas.

                                        YOU DON'T HATE THE ELDERLY ENOUGH.

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                                        • timnitgebru@dair-community.socialT timnitgebru@dair-community.social

                                          I was reading along and then I got to this part. 🙄

                                          "Further, and frighteningly, some very knowledgeable people fear that what was once seen as science fiction could soon become a reality, and that is that superintelligent AI could become smarter than humans, could become independent of human control, and pose an existential threat to the human race. "

                                          Folks, Bernie has been fully captured by the TESCREAL bundle

                                          Just a moment...

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                                          @timnitGebru CBC podcast with lecture from a literature professor explaining how AI hype has been lifted from sci-fi novels without any intellectual rigor. (ie The AI doomer statements are just quoting golden age of sci-fi tropes as science fact)

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