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"Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

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  • greatbigtable@mastodon.socialG greatbigtable@mastodon.social

    @jwz have you looked at videos of Waymo "stacking"? It's hilarious. One person stands in front of the vehicle and then someone else goes around putting post-it notes or taping paper in front of their sensors. The car is effectively disabled at that point.

    My wife used to use a similar technique using post-it notes to disable automatic flushing toilets in public bathrooms when our kids were little because they were scared by the random flushing when the sensors didn't properly notice them.

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    @GreatBigTable @jwz
    Wait if the sensors can be tricked that easily, wont street dust and dirt do the same thing eventually if the cars aren't cleaned often enough? That seems like a safety issue.

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    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

      "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

      Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

      "The More You Know..."

      Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
      https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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      @jwz It's basically the same thing as they need someone to plug them in. They cant plug themselves in either.

      Waymos are still so awesome

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      • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

        "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

        Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

        "The More You Know..."

        Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
        https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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        @jwz Sure seems like you could kill this company dead quick if you could get enough people to just carry some post-it notes around with them and commit to opening the doors of any Wayno they see stopped at an intersection.

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        • lauerhahn@sfba.socialL lauerhahn@sfba.social

          @GreatBigTable @jwz side note, I'm 40-something and still scared by the random flushing.

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          @lauerhahn I will often drape a piece of toilet paper over those sensors when I use them for the same reason.

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          • ckl@ioc.exchangeC ckl@ioc.exchange

            @jwz be a shame if someone repeated that stunt to call 50 waymos into a narrow one-way street, just to augment the experience by opening all doors.
            @pluralistic

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            @CKL @jwz @pluralistic or, you know, created more gig opportunities for doordashers...
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive

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            • hiisikoloart@writing.exchangeH hiisikoloart@writing.exchange

              @GreatBigTable @jwz
              Wait if the sensors can be tricked that easily, wont street dust and dirt do the same thing eventually if the cars aren't cleaned often enough? That seems like a safety issue.

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              @hiisikoloart

              Dunno about Waymos, but I had recently false positives on the ultrasound parking sensors caused by dried salt and dirt

              @GreatBigTable @jwz

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              • hareldan@mapstodon.spaceH hareldan@mapstodon.space

                @CKL @jwz @pluralistic or, you know, created more gig opportunities for doordashers...
                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive

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                @hareldan @CKL @jwz @pluralistic or, and hear me out here, put the snakes into the Waymos

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                • starkimarm@23.socialS starkimarm@23.social

                  @hiisikoloart

                  Dunno about Waymos, but I had recently false positives on the ultrasound parking sensors caused by dried salt and dirt

                  @GreatBigTable @jwz

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                  @Starkimarm @hiisikoloart @GreatBigTable Salt prior art: https://jwz.org/b/yiki

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                  • starkimarm@23.socialS starkimarm@23.social

                    @hiisikoloart

                    Dunno about Waymos, but I had recently false positives on the ultrasound parking sensors caused by dried salt and dirt

                    @GreatBigTable @jwz

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                    @Starkimarm @GreatBigTable @jwz
                    That sounds pretty unsafe design...

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                    • pikesley@mastodon.me.ukP pikesley@mastodon.me.uk

                      @hareldan @CKL @jwz @pluralistic or, and hear me out here, put the snakes into the Waymos

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                      @pikesley @hareldan @CKL @jwz @pluralistic

                      oh. Oh no.

                      The whole thing is just a stupid publicity stunt playing on the name Door.Dash.

                      I wonder if they have something else they want to distract people from lately.

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                      • hiisikoloart@writing.exchangeH hiisikoloart@writing.exchange

                        @Starkimarm @GreatBigTable @jwz
                        That sounds pretty unsafe design...

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                        @hiisikoloart

                        Not really, it's just annoying beeps at low speeds.

                        @GreatBigTable @jwz

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                        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                          "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

                          Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

                          "The More You Know..."

                          Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
                          https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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                          @jwz Close one door, open the other one, claim 10$, repeat

                          Standing around a car and opening/closing doors is my new dream job

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                          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                            "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

                            Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

                            "The More You Know..."

                            Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
                            https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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                            @jwz The self-driving cars can't open/close their doors themselves? That's not the Knight Rider future I was promised…

                            (To be fair, it would probably be the equivalent of ED-209 meets Bride vs. Buck, not K.I.T.T.)

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                            • ckl@ioc.exchangeC ckl@ioc.exchange

                              @jwz be a shame if someone repeated that stunt to call 50 waymos into a narrow one-way street, just to augment the experience by opening all doors.
                              @pluralistic

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                              @CKL @jwz @pluralistic

                              remember to walk funny while doing it so they cannot match your gait to the one they've got on file from you going to the supermarket or walking around a neighborhood with lots of Ring cameras.

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                              • mhd@tilde.zoneM mhd@tilde.zone

                                @jwz The self-driving cars can't open/close their doors themselves? That's not the Knight Rider future I was promised…

                                (To be fair, it would probably be the equivalent of ED-209 meets Bride vs. Buck, not K.I.T.T.)

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                                @mhd
                                DALEK HAS SUMMONED AN UBERRRRRRR

                                YOU WILL TAKE ME UP THE STAIRRRRRZZZZZZ

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                                • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                  "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

                                  Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

                                  "The More You Know..."

                                  Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
                                  https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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                                  @jwz giving a whole new meaning to "door dash"

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                                  • uep@timeloop.cafeU uep@timeloop.cafe

                                    @pikesley @hareldan @CKL @jwz @pluralistic

                                    oh. Oh no.

                                    The whole thing is just a stupid publicity stunt playing on the name Door.Dash.

                                    I wonder if they have something else they want to distract people from lately.

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                                    @uep @pikesley @hareldan @CKL @jwz @pluralistic There are many things you could be referring to be specific please!

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