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  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

    "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

    Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

    "The More You Know..."

    Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
    https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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    @jwz Anecdotally in summer with full veg cover, if there are some tree limbs sticking out into the road, they'll glitch out a lil bit. They're impressive (and are more subdued and considerate than humans) but have a lot of fairly common failure modes, and this is in dense city grids where they have enough of them circulating around to get a full coverage refresh every day. Most of the US is unfortunately suburban sprawl (I was told a decade ago that all truck drivers would be obsolete soon, now they make more than ever. maybe I should switch😅 )

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    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

      "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

      Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

      "The More You Know..."

      Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
      https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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      @jwz fuck I wish I could get a stupid valuation for acting this stupid!

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      • lauerhahn@sfba.socialL lauerhahn@sfba.social

        @GreatBigTable @jwz side note, I'm 40-something and still scared by the random flushing.

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        @lauerhahn @GreatBigTable @jwz probably because it feels like someone is watching and doing it to spook you 😵‍💫

        I know that didn’t help, sorry.

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        • europlus@social.europlus.zoneE europlus@social.europlus.zone

          @lauerhahn @GreatBigTable @jwz probably because it feels like someone is watching and doing it to spook you 😵‍💫

          I know that didn’t help, sorry.

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          @europlus @GreatBigTable @jwz Nah. It's just gross. At least program it to wait until no one's sitting on it!

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          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

            "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

            Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

            "The More You Know..."

            Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
            https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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            @jwz be a shame if someone repeated that stunt to call 50 waymos into a narrow one-way street, just to augment the experience by opening all doors.
            @pluralistic

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            • greatbigtable@mastodon.socialG greatbigtable@mastodon.social

              @jwz have you looked at videos of Waymo "stacking"? It's hilarious. One person stands in front of the vehicle and then someone else goes around putting post-it notes or taping paper in front of their sensors. The car is effectively disabled at that point.

              My wife used to use a similar technique using post-it notes to disable automatic flushing toilets in public bathrooms when our kids were little because they were scared by the random flushing when the sensors didn't properly notice them.

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              @GreatBigTable @jwz
              Wait if the sensors can be tricked that easily, wont street dust and dirt do the same thing eventually if the cars aren't cleaned often enough? That seems like a safety issue.

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              • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

                Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

                "The More You Know..."

                Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
                https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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                @jwz It's basically the same thing as they need someone to plug them in. They cant plug themselves in either.

                Waymos are still so awesome

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                • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                  "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

                  Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

                  "The More You Know..."

                  Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
                  https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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                  #16

                  @jwz Sure seems like you could kill this company dead quick if you could get enough people to just carry some post-it notes around with them and commit to opening the doors of any Wayno they see stopped at an intersection.

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                  • lauerhahn@sfba.socialL lauerhahn@sfba.social

                    @GreatBigTable @jwz side note, I'm 40-something and still scared by the random flushing.

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                    @lauerhahn I will often drape a piece of toilet paper over those sensors when I use them for the same reason.

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                    • ckl@ioc.exchangeC ckl@ioc.exchange

                      @jwz be a shame if someone repeated that stunt to call 50 waymos into a narrow one-way street, just to augment the experience by opening all doors.
                      @pluralistic

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                      @CKL @jwz @pluralistic or, you know, created more gig opportunities for doordashers...
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive

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                      • hiisikoloart@writing.exchangeH hiisikoloart@writing.exchange

                        @GreatBigTable @jwz
                        Wait if the sensors can be tricked that easily, wont street dust and dirt do the same thing eventually if the cars aren't cleaned often enough? That seems like a safety issue.

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                        @hiisikoloart

                        Dunno about Waymos, but I had recently false positives on the ultrasound parking sensors caused by dried salt and dirt

                        @GreatBigTable @jwz

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                        • hareldan@mapstodon.spaceH hareldan@mapstodon.space

                          @CKL @jwz @pluralistic or, you know, created more gig opportunities for doordashers...
                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive

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                          @hareldan @CKL @jwz @pluralistic or, and hear me out here, put the snakes into the Waymos

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                          • starkimarm@23.socialS starkimarm@23.social

                            @hiisikoloart

                            Dunno about Waymos, but I had recently false positives on the ultrasound parking sensors caused by dried salt and dirt

                            @GreatBigTable @jwz

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                            @Starkimarm @hiisikoloart @GreatBigTable Salt prior art: https://jwz.org/b/yiki

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                            • starkimarm@23.socialS starkimarm@23.social

                              @hiisikoloart

                              Dunno about Waymos, but I had recently false positives on the ultrasound parking sensors caused by dried salt and dirt

                              @GreatBigTable @jwz

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                              @Starkimarm @GreatBigTable @jwz
                              That sounds pretty unsafe design...

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                              • pikesley@mastodon.me.ukP pikesley@mastodon.me.uk

                                @hareldan @CKL @jwz @pluralistic or, and hear me out here, put the snakes into the Waymos

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                                @pikesley @hareldan @CKL @jwz @pluralistic

                                oh. Oh no.

                                The whole thing is just a stupid publicity stunt playing on the name Door.Dash.

                                I wonder if they have something else they want to distract people from lately.

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                                • hiisikoloart@writing.exchangeH hiisikoloart@writing.exchange

                                  @Starkimarm @GreatBigTable @jwz
                                  That sounds pretty unsafe design...

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                                  @hiisikoloart

                                  Not really, it's just annoying beeps at low speeds.

                                  @GreatBigTable @jwz

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                                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                    "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

                                    Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

                                    "The More You Know..."

                                    Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
                                    https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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                                    @jwz Close one door, open the other one, claim 10$, repeat

                                    Standing around a car and opening/closing doors is my new dream job

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                                    • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                      "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

                                      Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

                                      "The More You Know..."

                                      Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
                                      https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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                                      @jwz The self-driving cars can't open/close their doors themselves? That's not the Knight Rider future I was promised…

                                      (To be fair, it would probably be the equivalent of ED-209 meets Bride vs. Buck, not K.I.T.T.)

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                                      • ckl@ioc.exchangeC ckl@ioc.exchange

                                        @jwz be a shame if someone repeated that stunt to call 50 waymos into a narrow one-way street, just to augment the experience by opening all doors.
                                        @pluralistic

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                                        @CKL @jwz @pluralistic

                                        remember to walk funny while doing it so they cannot match your gait to the one they've got on file from you going to the supermarket or walking around a neighborhood with lots of Ring cameras.

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                                        • mhd@tilde.zoneM mhd@tilde.zone

                                          @jwz The self-driving cars can't open/close their doors themselves? That's not the Knight Rider future I was promised…

                                          (To be fair, it would probably be the equivalent of ED-209 meets Bride vs. Buck, not K.I.T.T.)

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                                          @mhd
                                          DALEK HAS SUMMONED AN UBERRRRRRR

                                          YOU WILL TAKE ME UP THE STAIRRRRRZZZZZZ

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