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"Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

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  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

    "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

    Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

    "The More You Know..."

    Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
    https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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    @jwz be a shame if someone repeated that stunt to call 50 waymos into a narrow one-way street, just to augment the experience by opening all doors.
    @pluralistic

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    • greatbigtable@mastodon.socialG greatbigtable@mastodon.social

      @jwz have you looked at videos of Waymo "stacking"? It's hilarious. One person stands in front of the vehicle and then someone else goes around putting post-it notes or taping paper in front of their sensors. The car is effectively disabled at that point.

      My wife used to use a similar technique using post-it notes to disable automatic flushing toilets in public bathrooms when our kids were little because they were scared by the random flushing when the sensors didn't properly notice them.

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      #14

      @GreatBigTable @jwz
      Wait if the sensors can be tricked that easily, wont street dust and dirt do the same thing eventually if the cars aren't cleaned often enough? That seems like a safety issue.

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      • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

        "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

        Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

        "The More You Know..."

        Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
        https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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        @jwz It's basically the same thing as they need someone to plug them in. They cant plug themselves in either.

        Waymos are still so awesome

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        • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

          "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

          Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

          "The More You Know..."

          Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
          https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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          #16

          @jwz Sure seems like you could kill this company dead quick if you could get enough people to just carry some post-it notes around with them and commit to opening the doors of any Wayno they see stopped at an intersection.

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          • lauerhahn@sfba.socialL lauerhahn@sfba.social

            @GreatBigTable @jwz side note, I'm 40-something and still scared by the random flushing.

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            @lauerhahn I will often drape a piece of toilet paper over those sensors when I use them for the same reason.

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            • ckl@ioc.exchangeC ckl@ioc.exchange

              @jwz be a shame if someone repeated that stunt to call 50 waymos into a narrow one-way street, just to augment the experience by opening all doors.
              @pluralistic

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              @CKL @jwz @pluralistic or, you know, created more gig opportunities for doordashers...
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive

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              • hiisikoloart@writing.exchangeH hiisikoloart@writing.exchange

                @GreatBigTable @jwz
                Wait if the sensors can be tricked that easily, wont street dust and dirt do the same thing eventually if the cars aren't cleaned often enough? That seems like a safety issue.

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                @hiisikoloart

                Dunno about Waymos, but I had recently false positives on the ultrasound parking sensors caused by dried salt and dirt

                @GreatBigTable @jwz

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                • hareldan@mapstodon.spaceH hareldan@mapstodon.space

                  @CKL @jwz @pluralistic or, you know, created more gig opportunities for doordashers...
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perverse_incentive

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                  @hareldan @CKL @jwz @pluralistic or, and hear me out here, put the snakes into the Waymos

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                  • starkimarm@23.socialS starkimarm@23.social

                    @hiisikoloart

                    Dunno about Waymos, but I had recently false positives on the ultrasound parking sensors caused by dried salt and dirt

                    @GreatBigTable @jwz

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                    @Starkimarm @hiisikoloart @GreatBigTable Salt prior art: https://jwz.org/b/yiki

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                    • starkimarm@23.socialS starkimarm@23.social

                      @hiisikoloart

                      Dunno about Waymos, but I had recently false positives on the ultrasound parking sensors caused by dried salt and dirt

                      @GreatBigTable @jwz

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                      #22

                      @Starkimarm @GreatBigTable @jwz
                      That sounds pretty unsafe design...

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                      • pikesley@mastodon.me.ukP pikesley@mastodon.me.uk

                        @hareldan @CKL @jwz @pluralistic or, and hear me out here, put the snakes into the Waymos

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                        @pikesley @hareldan @CKL @jwz @pluralistic

                        oh. Oh no.

                        The whole thing is just a stupid publicity stunt playing on the name Door.Dash.

                        I wonder if they have something else they want to distract people from lately.

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                        • hiisikoloart@writing.exchangeH hiisikoloart@writing.exchange

                          @Starkimarm @GreatBigTable @jwz
                          That sounds pretty unsafe design...

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                          @hiisikoloart

                          Not really, it's just annoying beeps at low speeds.

                          @GreatBigTable @jwz

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                          • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                            "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

                            Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

                            "The More You Know..."

                            Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
                            https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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                            @jwz Close one door, open the other one, claim 10$, repeat

                            Standing around a car and opening/closing doors is my new dream job

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                            • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                              "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

                              Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

                              "The More You Know..."

                              Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
                              https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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                              @jwz The self-driving cars can't open/close their doors themselves? That's not the Knight Rider future I was promised…

                              (To be fair, it would probably be the equivalent of ED-209 meets Bride vs. Buck, not K.I.T.T.)

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                              • ckl@ioc.exchangeC ckl@ioc.exchange

                                @jwz be a shame if someone repeated that stunt to call 50 waymos into a narrow one-way street, just to augment the experience by opening all doors.
                                @pluralistic

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                                @CKL @jwz @pluralistic

                                remember to walk funny while doing it so they cannot match your gait to the one they've got on file from you going to the supermarket or walking around a neighborhood with lots of Ring cameras.

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                                • mhd@tilde.zoneM mhd@tilde.zone

                                  @jwz The self-driving cars can't open/close their doors themselves? That's not the Knight Rider future I was promised…

                                  (To be fair, it would probably be the equivalent of ED-209 meets Bride vs. Buck, not K.I.T.T.)

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                                  @mhd
                                  DALEK HAS SUMMONED AN UBERRRRRRR

                                  YOU WILL TAKE ME UP THE STAIRRRRRZZZZZZ

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                                  • jwz@mastodon.socialJ jwz@mastodon.social

                                    "Door ajar" versus $100 billion valuation.

                                    Today I learned that you can DoS a Waymo by opening its door.

                                    "The More You Know..."

                                    Waymo, Google's autonomous vehicle company, and DoorDash, the delivery and gig work platform, have launched a pilot program that pays Dashers, at least in one case, around $10 to travel to a parked Waymo and close its door that the previous passenger left open.
                                    https://jwz.org/b/yk3Z

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                                    @jwz giving a whole new meaning to "door dash"

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                                    • uep@timeloop.cafeU uep@timeloop.cafe

                                      @pikesley @hareldan @CKL @jwz @pluralistic

                                      oh. Oh no.

                                      The whole thing is just a stupid publicity stunt playing on the name Door.Dash.

                                      I wonder if they have something else they want to distract people from lately.

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                                      @uep @pikesley @hareldan @CKL @jwz @pluralistic There are many things you could be referring to be specific please!

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