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  • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

    In today's episode of "Can It Run Doom": DNS fucking TXT records.

    Some absolute madlad (cough Adam Rice cough) compressed the entire shareware DOOM WAD, split it into around 1,964 chunks, shoved them into Cloudflare TXT records, and wrote a PowerShell script that reassembles and runs the whole goddamn game from DNS queries alone. Nothing touches disk. The DLLs are in DNS. THE FUCKING DLLS ARE IN DNS.

    RFC 1035 was written in 1987. Those engineers are spinning in their graves fast enough to generate municipal power.

    Bonus: this is a fully functional globally-distributed covert data exfil channel that your NGFW will never fucking see if you're not doing deep DNS inspection. Sleep well.

    blog: https://blog.rice.is/post/doom-over-dns/

    repo: https://github.com/resumex/doom-over-dns

    Also lmao @ every blue team that has never once looked at their DNS query volume. How's that DLP policy working out for you.

    It was always DNS.

    #infosec #dns #doom #itisalwaysdns

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    @k3ym0 shit like this makes me glad I no longer work in #cybersec

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    • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

      In today's episode of "Can It Run Doom": DNS fucking TXT records.

      Some absolute madlad (cough Adam Rice cough) compressed the entire shareware DOOM WAD, split it into around 1,964 chunks, shoved them into Cloudflare TXT records, and wrote a PowerShell script that reassembles and runs the whole goddamn game from DNS queries alone. Nothing touches disk. The DLLs are in DNS. THE FUCKING DLLS ARE IN DNS.

      RFC 1035 was written in 1987. Those engineers are spinning in their graves fast enough to generate municipal power.

      Bonus: this is a fully functional globally-distributed covert data exfil channel that your NGFW will never fucking see if you're not doing deep DNS inspection. Sleep well.

      blog: https://blog.rice.is/post/doom-over-dns/

      repo: https://github.com/resumex/doom-over-dns

      Also lmao @ every blue team that has never once looked at their DNS query volume. How's that DLP policy working out for you.

      It was always DNS.

      #infosec #dns #doom #itisalwaysdns

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      @k3ym0
      IP over DNS has been a thing for a while now, sometimes used to bypass captive portals for paid internet access

      #infosec #dns #doom #itisalwaysdns

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      • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

        In today's episode of "Can It Run Doom": DNS fucking TXT records.

        Some absolute madlad (cough Adam Rice cough) compressed the entire shareware DOOM WAD, split it into around 1,964 chunks, shoved them into Cloudflare TXT records, and wrote a PowerShell script that reassembles and runs the whole goddamn game from DNS queries alone. Nothing touches disk. The DLLs are in DNS. THE FUCKING DLLS ARE IN DNS.

        RFC 1035 was written in 1987. Those engineers are spinning in their graves fast enough to generate municipal power.

        Bonus: this is a fully functional globally-distributed covert data exfil channel that your NGFW will never fucking see if you're not doing deep DNS inspection. Sleep well.

        blog: https://blog.rice.is/post/doom-over-dns/

        repo: https://github.com/resumex/doom-over-dns

        Also lmao @ every blue team that has never once looked at their DNS query volume. How's that DLP policy working out for you.

        It was always DNS.

        #infosec #dns #doom #itisalwaysdns

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        @k3ym0

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        • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

          In today's episode of "Can It Run Doom": DNS fucking TXT records.

          Some absolute madlad (cough Adam Rice cough) compressed the entire shareware DOOM WAD, split it into around 1,964 chunks, shoved them into Cloudflare TXT records, and wrote a PowerShell script that reassembles and runs the whole goddamn game from DNS queries alone. Nothing touches disk. The DLLs are in DNS. THE FUCKING DLLS ARE IN DNS.

          RFC 1035 was written in 1987. Those engineers are spinning in their graves fast enough to generate municipal power.

          Bonus: this is a fully functional globally-distributed covert data exfil channel that your NGFW will never fucking see if you're not doing deep DNS inspection. Sleep well.

          blog: https://blog.rice.is/post/doom-over-dns/

          repo: https://github.com/resumex/doom-over-dns

          Also lmao @ every blue team that has never once looked at their DNS query volume. How's that DLP policy working out for you.

          It was always DNS.

          #infosec #dns #doom #itisalwaysdns

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          @k3ym0 Doom Network Service 🎉

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          • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

            In today's episode of "Can It Run Doom": DNS fucking TXT records.

            Some absolute madlad (cough Adam Rice cough) compressed the entire shareware DOOM WAD, split it into around 1,964 chunks, shoved them into Cloudflare TXT records, and wrote a PowerShell script that reassembles and runs the whole goddamn game from DNS queries alone. Nothing touches disk. The DLLs are in DNS. THE FUCKING DLLS ARE IN DNS.

            RFC 1035 was written in 1987. Those engineers are spinning in their graves fast enough to generate municipal power.

            Bonus: this is a fully functional globally-distributed covert data exfil channel that your NGFW will never fucking see if you're not doing deep DNS inspection. Sleep well.

            blog: https://blog.rice.is/post/doom-over-dns/

            repo: https://github.com/resumex/doom-over-dns

            Also lmao @ every blue team that has never once looked at their DNS query volume. How's that DLP policy working out for you.

            It was always DNS.

            #infosec #dns #doom #itisalwaysdns

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            @k3ym0 shit. Time to do Bad Apple on DNS.

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            • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

              In today's episode of "Can It Run Doom": DNS fucking TXT records.

              Some absolute madlad (cough Adam Rice cough) compressed the entire shareware DOOM WAD, split it into around 1,964 chunks, shoved them into Cloudflare TXT records, and wrote a PowerShell script that reassembles and runs the whole goddamn game from DNS queries alone. Nothing touches disk. The DLLs are in DNS. THE FUCKING DLLS ARE IN DNS.

              RFC 1035 was written in 1987. Those engineers are spinning in their graves fast enough to generate municipal power.

              Bonus: this is a fully functional globally-distributed covert data exfil channel that your NGFW will never fucking see if you're not doing deep DNS inspection. Sleep well.

              blog: https://blog.rice.is/post/doom-over-dns/

              repo: https://github.com/resumex/doom-over-dns

              Also lmao @ every blue team that has never once looked at their DNS query volume. How's that DLP policy working out for you.

              It was always DNS.

              #infosec #dns #doom #itisalwaysdns

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              @k3ym0 The concept is very old, I was using dns2tcp to have free wifi on plane trips in 2010 and even before during pentests. Long TXT replies trigger red alerts on most intrusion detection systems nowadays.

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              • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

                In today's episode of "Can It Run Doom": DNS fucking TXT records.

                Some absolute madlad (cough Adam Rice cough) compressed the entire shareware DOOM WAD, split it into around 1,964 chunks, shoved them into Cloudflare TXT records, and wrote a PowerShell script that reassembles and runs the whole goddamn game from DNS queries alone. Nothing touches disk. The DLLs are in DNS. THE FUCKING DLLS ARE IN DNS.

                RFC 1035 was written in 1987. Those engineers are spinning in their graves fast enough to generate municipal power.

                Bonus: this is a fully functional globally-distributed covert data exfil channel that your NGFW will never fucking see if you're not doing deep DNS inspection. Sleep well.

                blog: https://blog.rice.is/post/doom-over-dns/

                repo: https://github.com/resumex/doom-over-dns

                Also lmao @ every blue team that has never once looked at their DNS query volume. How's that DLP policy working out for you.

                It was always DNS.

                #infosec #dns #doom #itisalwaysdns

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                @k3ym0 now... can it do deathmatch over doom over dns? :3

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                • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

                  In today's episode of "Can It Run Doom": DNS fucking TXT records.

                  Some absolute madlad (cough Adam Rice cough) compressed the entire shareware DOOM WAD, split it into around 1,964 chunks, shoved them into Cloudflare TXT records, and wrote a PowerShell script that reassembles and runs the whole goddamn game from DNS queries alone. Nothing touches disk. The DLLs are in DNS. THE FUCKING DLLS ARE IN DNS.

                  RFC 1035 was written in 1987. Those engineers are spinning in their graves fast enough to generate municipal power.

                  Bonus: this is a fully functional globally-distributed covert data exfil channel that your NGFW will never fucking see if you're not doing deep DNS inspection. Sleep well.

                  blog: https://blog.rice.is/post/doom-over-dns/

                  repo: https://github.com/resumex/doom-over-dns

                  Also lmao @ every blue team that has never once looked at their DNS query volume. How's that DLP policy working out for you.

                  It was always DNS.

                  #infosec #dns #doom #itisalwaysdns

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                  @k3ym0 For quite a loose definition of "run".

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                  • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

                    In today's episode of "Can It Run Doom": DNS fucking TXT records.

                    Some absolute madlad (cough Adam Rice cough) compressed the entire shareware DOOM WAD, split it into around 1,964 chunks, shoved them into Cloudflare TXT records, and wrote a PowerShell script that reassembles and runs the whole goddamn game from DNS queries alone. Nothing touches disk. The DLLs are in DNS. THE FUCKING DLLS ARE IN DNS.

                    RFC 1035 was written in 1987. Those engineers are spinning in their graves fast enough to generate municipal power.

                    Bonus: this is a fully functional globally-distributed covert data exfil channel that your NGFW will never fucking see if you're not doing deep DNS inspection. Sleep well.

                    blog: https://blog.rice.is/post/doom-over-dns/

                    repo: https://github.com/resumex/doom-over-dns

                    Also lmao @ every blue team that has never once looked at their DNS query volume. How's that DLP policy working out for you.

                    It was always DNS.

                    #infosec #dns #doom #itisalwaysdns

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                    @k3ym0
                    > covert data exfil channel

                    as if iodine wasn't already a thing

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                      @k3ym0 Doom Network Service 🎉

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                      @simondassow Doom-aaS?

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                      • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

                        In today's episode of "Can It Run Doom": DNS fucking TXT records.

                        Some absolute madlad (cough Adam Rice cough) compressed the entire shareware DOOM WAD, split it into around 1,964 chunks, shoved them into Cloudflare TXT records, and wrote a PowerShell script that reassembles and runs the whole goddamn game from DNS queries alone. Nothing touches disk. The DLLs are in DNS. THE FUCKING DLLS ARE IN DNS.

                        RFC 1035 was written in 1987. Those engineers are spinning in their graves fast enough to generate municipal power.

                        Bonus: this is a fully functional globally-distributed covert data exfil channel that your NGFW will never fucking see if you're not doing deep DNS inspection. Sleep well.

                        blog: https://blog.rice.is/post/doom-over-dns/

                        repo: https://github.com/resumex/doom-over-dns

                        Also lmao @ every blue team that has never once looked at their DNS query volume. How's that DLP policy working out for you.

                        It was always DNS.

                        #infosec #dns #doom #itisalwaysdns

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                        @k3ym0 "good luck if you're not doing deep DNS inspection"

                        iodine, dnscat, and literally every other DNS tunneling technique that has existed in the past 20-ish years: lol. lmao, even.

                        Still, quite impressive, but saying this shit is a hard to detect covert channel is unmitigated bullshit.

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                          @k3ym0 "good luck if you're not doing deep DNS inspection"

                          iodine, dnscat, and literally every other DNS tunneling technique that has existed in the past 20-ish years: lol. lmao, even.

                          Still, quite impressive, but saying this shit is a hard to detect covert channel is unmitigated bullshit.

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                          @da_667 iodine and dnscat also have 20 years of signatures, known patterns, and detection logic baked into tooling. This doesn't.

                          But honestly that's beside the point. "Detectable" and "detected" are two very different sentences. iodine has been detectable for 20 years and I've watched it walk right out of enterprise networks that had no idea. Known technique != mature detection coverage in the median org.

                          SMB's are running Server 2008r2 with a Watchguard FW and a prayer. Mid-market is logging DNS at the firewall level and calling it done.

                          "Detectable in theory by a mature SOC" and "hard to detect in most real environments" are not mutually exclusive statements.

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                          • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

                            @da_667 iodine and dnscat also have 20 years of signatures, known patterns, and detection logic baked into tooling. This doesn't.

                            But honestly that's beside the point. "Detectable" and "detected" are two very different sentences. iodine has been detectable for 20 years and I've watched it walk right out of enterprise networks that had no idea. Known technique != mature detection coverage in the median org.

                            SMB's are running Server 2008r2 with a Watchguard FW and a prayer. Mid-market is logging DNS at the firewall level and calling it done.

                            "Detectable in theory by a mature SOC" and "hard to detect in most real environments" are not mutually exclusive statements.

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                            @k3ym0
                            @da_667

                            * Cries in DoH-allowed-networks *

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                            • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

                              In today's episode of "Can It Run Doom": DNS fucking TXT records.

                              Some absolute madlad (cough Adam Rice cough) compressed the entire shareware DOOM WAD, split it into around 1,964 chunks, shoved them into Cloudflare TXT records, and wrote a PowerShell script that reassembles and runs the whole goddamn game from DNS queries alone. Nothing touches disk. The DLLs are in DNS. THE FUCKING DLLS ARE IN DNS.

                              RFC 1035 was written in 1987. Those engineers are spinning in their graves fast enough to generate municipal power.

                              Bonus: this is a fully functional globally-distributed covert data exfil channel that your NGFW will never fucking see if you're not doing deep DNS inspection. Sleep well.

                              blog: https://blog.rice.is/post/doom-over-dns/

                              repo: https://github.com/resumex/doom-over-dns

                              Also lmao @ every blue team that has never once looked at their DNS query volume. How's that DLP policy working out for you.

                              It was always DNS.

                              #infosec #dns #doom #itisalwaysdns

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                              @k3ym0@infosec.exchange DNS haiku just got a lot bloodier...
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                                @k3ym0
                                @da_667

                                * Cries in DoH-allowed-networks *

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                                @rx13 @k3ym0

                                /point
                                /laugh

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                                • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

                                  In today's episode of "Can It Run Doom": DNS fucking TXT records.

                                  Some absolute madlad (cough Adam Rice cough) compressed the entire shareware DOOM WAD, split it into around 1,964 chunks, shoved them into Cloudflare TXT records, and wrote a PowerShell script that reassembles and runs the whole goddamn game from DNS queries alone. Nothing touches disk. The DLLs are in DNS. THE FUCKING DLLS ARE IN DNS.

                                  RFC 1035 was written in 1987. Those engineers are spinning in their graves fast enough to generate municipal power.

                                  Bonus: this is a fully functional globally-distributed covert data exfil channel that your NGFW will never fucking see if you're not doing deep DNS inspection. Sleep well.

                                  blog: https://blog.rice.is/post/doom-over-dns/

                                  repo: https://github.com/resumex/doom-over-dns

                                  Also lmao @ every blue team that has never once looked at their DNS query volume. How's that DLP policy working out for you.

                                  It was always DNS.

                                  #infosec #dns #doom #itisalwaysdns

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                                  @k3ym0 I used to have the entire text of the Magna Carta in TXT records in a subdomain.

                                  Even during the early 1990's on the Interop show networks we discovered people streaming lewd stuff via DNS-looking UDP packets.

                                  (Another channel that we used, but it only works on a LAN, is to use the space between the end of a short IP packet and the end of the enclosing Ethernet frame. [Short IP packets are smaller than the minimum size of Ethernet frames.] This was largely used for license key exchanges.)

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                                  • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

                                    @da_667 iodine and dnscat also have 20 years of signatures, known patterns, and detection logic baked into tooling. This doesn't.

                                    But honestly that's beside the point. "Detectable" and "detected" are two very different sentences. iodine has been detectable for 20 years and I've watched it walk right out of enterprise networks that had no idea. Known technique != mature detection coverage in the median org.

                                    SMB's are running Server 2008r2 with a Watchguard FW and a prayer. Mid-market is logging DNS at the firewall level and calling it done.

                                    "Detectable in theory by a mature SOC" and "hard to detect in most real environments" are not mutually exclusive statements.

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                                    @k3ym0 @da_667

                                    Yeah, I tend to agree with this take. Reliably catching techniques like DNS tunneling, DGA, etc., looks trivial until you try it on noisy real world networks with all sorts of idiosyncratic constraints, and also when you realize that what we consider "trivial" is often considered "impractical" or "impossible" for most real world orgs.

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                                    • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

                                      In today's episode of "Can It Run Doom": DNS fucking TXT records.

                                      Some absolute madlad (cough Adam Rice cough) compressed the entire shareware DOOM WAD, split it into around 1,964 chunks, shoved them into Cloudflare TXT records, and wrote a PowerShell script that reassembles and runs the whole goddamn game from DNS queries alone. Nothing touches disk. The DLLs are in DNS. THE FUCKING DLLS ARE IN DNS.

                                      RFC 1035 was written in 1987. Those engineers are spinning in their graves fast enough to generate municipal power.

                                      Bonus: this is a fully functional globally-distributed covert data exfil channel that your NGFW will never fucking see if you're not doing deep DNS inspection. Sleep well.

                                      blog: https://blog.rice.is/post/doom-over-dns/

                                      repo: https://github.com/resumex/doom-over-dns

                                      Also lmao @ every blue team that has never once looked at their DNS query volume. How's that DLP policy working out for you.

                                      It was always DNS.

                                      #infosec #dns #doom #itisalwaysdns

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                                      @k3ym0 "Bonus: this is a fully functional globally-distributed covert data exfil channel that your NGFW will never fucking see if you're not doing deep DNS inspection. Sleep well."

                                      Doesn't work anymore for a decade. Most serious companies don't allow DNS queries to servers outside of their network. The only endpoints allowed to do that are the corporate internal DNS.
                                      With DoH I'm also not sure that will work because of the corporate web proxy.

                                      To make data exfiltrations there are so many easy ways to do so ... Why spending time to make something over DNS when you can simply upload the files or exploit USB keys, it's not hard to bypass FW and EDR policies.

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                                      • k3ym0@infosec.exchangeK k3ym0@infosec.exchange

                                        In today's episode of "Can It Run Doom": DNS fucking TXT records.

                                        Some absolute madlad (cough Adam Rice cough) compressed the entire shareware DOOM WAD, split it into around 1,964 chunks, shoved them into Cloudflare TXT records, and wrote a PowerShell script that reassembles and runs the whole goddamn game from DNS queries alone. Nothing touches disk. The DLLs are in DNS. THE FUCKING DLLS ARE IN DNS.

                                        RFC 1035 was written in 1987. Those engineers are spinning in their graves fast enough to generate municipal power.

                                        Bonus: this is a fully functional globally-distributed covert data exfil channel that your NGFW will never fucking see if you're not doing deep DNS inspection. Sleep well.

                                        blog: https://blog.rice.is/post/doom-over-dns/

                                        repo: https://github.com/resumex/doom-over-dns

                                        Also lmao @ every blue team that has never once looked at their DNS query volume. How's that DLP policy working out for you.

                                        It was always DNS.

                                        #infosec #dns #doom #itisalwaysdns

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                                        @k3ym0 This post is wild but the stuff people are sharing in the comments is great hahaha

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                                        • davemwilburn@infosec.exchangeD davemwilburn@infosec.exchange

                                          @k3ym0 @da_667

                                          Yeah, I tend to agree with this take. Reliably catching techniques like DNS tunneling, DGA, etc., looks trivial until you try it on noisy real world networks with all sorts of idiosyncratic constraints, and also when you realize that what we consider "trivial" is often considered "impractical" or "impossible" for most real world orgs.

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                                          @DaveMWilburn @k3ym0 I'm well aware that trying to base your detection on shannon entropy is an exercise in futility, as most cloud providers have the "malware to ops DGA that looks like its very malicious" down pat. But I will still say, if you suddenly are getting assloads of TXT records with the same domain in common, so long as you have DNS logs at all, you can probably do some form of statistical analysis and notice that this number of DNS TXT records from one place looks really fucking jank.

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