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Fedi Hive Mind - What should software free of AI be labeled?

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  • cynblogger@sfba.socialC cynblogger@sfba.social

    @mastodonmigration
    Ok

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    @cynblogger

    Think that's very good, and it works for written works, art, music and code. This feels like progress.

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    • mschfr@mastodon.socialM mschfr@mastodon.social

      @mastodonmigration @Blender @redox I feel that there needs to be some definition what that should even mean? Not developed with help of some kind of AI tool? No AI features for endusers? No machine learning features anywhere in the software?

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      @mschfr

      What are your thoughts about "GenAI Free"?

      GenAI is the term adopted by the industry for writing, art music and code. If something is certified GenAI Free that attests to its being human produced.

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      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

        Fedi Hive Mind - What should software free of AI be labeled?

        A decision by @Blender to take money from Anthopic, and a policy by @redox to ban all LLM generated code spotlights the question.

        Other industries have used badging like Sugar Free, Low Tar, Alcohol Free, 100% Cotton, and Organic.

        What's a good label for code that is certified free of any LLM generated code?

        So far suggestions include: AI Free, Organic Code, Not By AI, LLM Free, 100% Human, No LLM, No AI

        Thoughts? Ideas?

        #AI

        aimeemaroux@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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        @mastodonmigration I personally like the No AI one that resembles the no smoking sign 🚭 but instead of the cigarette it says AI

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        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

          @cynblogger

          Think that's very good, and it works for written works, art, music and code. This feels like progress.

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          #39

          @mastodonmigration
          Yay!

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          • aimeemaroux@mastodon.socialA aimeemaroux@mastodon.social

            @mastodonmigration I personally like the No AI one that resembles the no smoking sign 🚭 but instead of the cigarette it says AI

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            @AimeeMaroux

            Something like this? Excuse the sloppy production, just to showcase the idea.

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            • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

              @AimeeMaroux

              Something like this? Excuse the sloppy production, just to showcase the idea.

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              @AimeeMaroux

              Or maybe something like this...

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              • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                @AimeeMaroux

                Something like this? Excuse the sloppy production, just to showcase the idea.

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                #42

                @mastodonmigration Yes! I have seen some artists use a variation of this as an emoji.

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                • aimeemaroux@mastodon.socialA aimeemaroux@mastodon.social

                  @mastodonmigration Yes! I have seen some artists use a variation of this as an emoji.

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                  @AimeeMaroux

                  Cool

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                  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                    @AimeeMaroux

                    Or maybe something like this...

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                    #44

                    @mastodonmigration I know genAI is more accurate but since companies use "AI" as a marketing term, I feel like it's appropriate to use it in any anti imagery as well.

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                    • aimeemaroux@mastodon.socialA aimeemaroux@mastodon.social

                      @mastodonmigration I know genAI is more accurate but since companies use "AI" as a marketing term, I feel like it's appropriate to use it in any anti imagery as well.

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                      #45

                      @AimeeMaroux

                      Just fooling around with it now...

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                      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                        @AimeeMaroux

                        Something like this? Excuse the sloppy production, just to showcase the idea.

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                        #46

                        @mastodonmigration @AimeeMaroux Keep it simple. Thinner red lines.

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                        • lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.orgL lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org

                          @mastodonmigration @AimeeMaroux Keep it simple. Thinner red lines.

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                          @lauren @AimeeMaroux

                          💯 Yeah, not a graphic artist at all. This is just to get the concept out. If anyone with some skill wants to jump in that would be great.

                          Edit: Perhaps we could ask Claude to generate one? /s

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                          • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                            @lauren @AimeeMaroux

                            💯 Yeah, not a graphic artist at all. This is just to get the concept out. If anyone with some skill wants to jump in that would be great.

                            Edit: Perhaps we could ask Claude to generate one? /s

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                            @mastodonmigration @lauren @AimeeMaroux Simple is effective. This works.

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                            • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                              Fedi Hive Mind - What should software free of AI be labeled?

                              A decision by @Blender to take money from Anthopic, and a policy by @redox to ban all LLM generated code spotlights the question.

                              Other industries have used badging like Sugar Free, Low Tar, Alcohol Free, 100% Cotton, and Organic.

                              What's a good label for code that is certified free of any LLM generated code?

                              So far suggestions include: AI Free, Organic Code, Not By AI, LLM Free, 100% Human, No LLM, No AI

                              Thoughts? Ideas?

                              #AI

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                              @mastodonmigration @Blender @redox

                              “AI Free” seems the clearest to me.

                              “No AI” kind of sounds like you just don’t like AI.

                              I would suggest simplicity and clarity, and not get too clever, but I realize I’m on Mastodon and talking to free software folks.

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                              • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                Fedi Hive Mind - What should software free of AI be labeled?

                                A decision by @Blender to take money from Anthopic, and a policy by @redox to ban all LLM generated code spotlights the question.

                                Other industries have used badging like Sugar Free, Low Tar, Alcohol Free, 100% Cotton, and Organic.

                                What's a good label for code that is certified free of any LLM generated code?

                                So far suggestions include: AI Free, Organic Code, Not By AI, LLM Free, 100% Human, No LLM, No AI

                                Thoughts? Ideas?

                                #AI

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                                @mastodonmigration @Blender @redox
                                In the spirit of brainstorming:
                                -OriginalAI (Actual Intelligence)
                                -Made with Biodegradable Developers
                                -Analog Developed
                                -Lovingly Handcoded

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                                • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                  @viennawriter @Carl_Gylling

                                  "Human Certified"

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                                  @mastodonmigration @viennawriter I don't like anything with "human" in it though, because it isn't a matter of species. For the moment, we know no other species that writes code, makes music etc, but if we encounter one that does, their creations are equally valid. (Yes, also if it's a robot like the ones in sci fi, I think.) It's about how it was made and not by whom. That said, a hand is also a bit human-centric.

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                                  • carl_gylling@mastodon.nuC carl_gylling@mastodon.nu

                                    @mastodonmigration @viennawriter I don't like anything with "human" in it though, because it isn't a matter of species. For the moment, we know no other species that writes code, makes music etc, but if we encounter one that does, their creations are equally valid. (Yes, also if it's a robot like the ones in sci fi, I think.) It's about how it was made and not by whom. That said, a hand is also a bit human-centric.

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                                    @Carl_Gylling @viennawriter

                                    After sitting with it a while, agree. It feels like "human" has kind of a yuck factor used in this context. Leaning toward "AI Free" or "GenAI Free"

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                                    • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                      @Carl_Gylling @viennawriter

                                      After sitting with it a while, agree. It feels like "human" has kind of a yuck factor used in this context. Leaning toward "AI Free" or "GenAI Free"

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                                      @Carl_Gylling @viennawriter

                                      Latest work in progress....

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                                      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                        @AimeeMaroux

                                        Just fooling around with it now...

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                                        @mastodonmigration Putting the 'human made' inside the circle is confusing. Looks almost like it's banning human-made. Perhaps that text should be outside the circle? Things in the circle are banned!

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                                        • pre@boing.worldP pre@boing.world

                                          @mastodonmigration Putting the 'human made' inside the circle is confusing. Looks almost like it's banning human-made. Perhaps that text should be outside the circle? Things in the circle are banned!

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                                          @pre @mastodonmigration You need two logos, certified human, and certified AI free.

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