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  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

    Fedi Hive Mind - What should software free of AI be labeled?

    A decision by @Blender to take money from Anthopic, and a policy by @redox to ban all LLM generated code spotlights the question.

    Other industries have used badging like Sugar Free, Low Tar, Alcohol Free, 100% Cotton, and Organic.

    What's a good label for code that is certified free of any LLM generated code?

    So far suggestions include: AI Free, Organic Code, Not By AI, LLM Free, 100% Human, No LLM, No AI

    Thoughts? Ideas?

    #AI

    aimeemaroux@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @mastodonmigration I personally like the No AI one that resembles the no smoking sign 🚭 but instead of the cigarette it says AI

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    • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

      @cynblogger

      Think that's very good, and it works for written works, art, music and code. This feels like progress.

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      @mastodonmigration
      Yay!

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      • aimeemaroux@mastodon.socialA aimeemaroux@mastodon.social

        @mastodonmigration I personally like the No AI one that resembles the no smoking sign 🚭 but instead of the cigarette it says AI

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        @AimeeMaroux

        Something like this? Excuse the sloppy production, just to showcase the idea.

        mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM aimeemaroux@mastodon.socialA lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.orgL 3 Replies Last reply
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        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

          @AimeeMaroux

          Something like this? Excuse the sloppy production, just to showcase the idea.

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          @AimeeMaroux

          Or maybe something like this...

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          • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

            @AimeeMaroux

            Something like this? Excuse the sloppy production, just to showcase the idea.

            aimeemaroux@mastodon.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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            #42

            @mastodonmigration Yes! I have seen some artists use a variation of this as an emoji.

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            • aimeemaroux@mastodon.socialA aimeemaroux@mastodon.social

              @mastodonmigration Yes! I have seen some artists use a variation of this as an emoji.

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              #43

              @AimeeMaroux

              Cool

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              • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                @AimeeMaroux

                Or maybe something like this...

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                @mastodonmigration I know genAI is more accurate but since companies use "AI" as a marketing term, I feel like it's appropriate to use it in any anti imagery as well.

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                • aimeemaroux@mastodon.socialA aimeemaroux@mastodon.social

                  @mastodonmigration I know genAI is more accurate but since companies use "AI" as a marketing term, I feel like it's appropriate to use it in any anti imagery as well.

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                  @AimeeMaroux

                  Just fooling around with it now...

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                  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                    @AimeeMaroux

                    Something like this? Excuse the sloppy production, just to showcase the idea.

                    lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.orgL This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #46

                    @mastodonmigration @AimeeMaroux Keep it simple. Thinner red lines.

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                    • lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.orgL lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org

                      @mastodonmigration @AimeeMaroux Keep it simple. Thinner red lines.

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                      @lauren @AimeeMaroux

                      💯 Yeah, not a graphic artist at all. This is just to get the concept out. If anyone with some skill wants to jump in that would be great.

                      Edit: Perhaps we could ask Claude to generate one? /s

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                      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                        @lauren @AimeeMaroux

                        💯 Yeah, not a graphic artist at all. This is just to get the concept out. If anyone with some skill wants to jump in that would be great.

                        Edit: Perhaps we could ask Claude to generate one? /s

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                        #48

                        @mastodonmigration @lauren @AimeeMaroux Simple is effective. This works.

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                        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                          Fedi Hive Mind - What should software free of AI be labeled?

                          A decision by @Blender to take money from Anthopic, and a policy by @redox to ban all LLM generated code spotlights the question.

                          Other industries have used badging like Sugar Free, Low Tar, Alcohol Free, 100% Cotton, and Organic.

                          What's a good label for code that is certified free of any LLM generated code?

                          So far suggestions include: AI Free, Organic Code, Not By AI, LLM Free, 100% Human, No LLM, No AI

                          Thoughts? Ideas?

                          #AI

                          billyjoebowers@mastodon.onlineB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @mastodonmigration @Blender @redox

                          “AI Free” seems the clearest to me.

                          “No AI” kind of sounds like you just don’t like AI.

                          I would suggest simplicity and clarity, and not get too clever, but I realize I’m on Mastodon and talking to free software folks.

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                          • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                            Fedi Hive Mind - What should software free of AI be labeled?

                            A decision by @Blender to take money from Anthopic, and a policy by @redox to ban all LLM generated code spotlights the question.

                            Other industries have used badging like Sugar Free, Low Tar, Alcohol Free, 100% Cotton, and Organic.

                            What's a good label for code that is certified free of any LLM generated code?

                            So far suggestions include: AI Free, Organic Code, Not By AI, LLM Free, 100% Human, No LLM, No AI

                            Thoughts? Ideas?

                            #AI

                            unfmeghan@dmv.communityU This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @mastodonmigration @Blender @redox
                            In the spirit of brainstorming:
                            -OriginalAI (Actual Intelligence)
                            -Made with Biodegradable Developers
                            -Analog Developed
                            -Lovingly Handcoded

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                            • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                              @viennawriter @Carl_Gylling

                              "Human Certified"

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                              @mastodonmigration @viennawriter I don't like anything with "human" in it though, because it isn't a matter of species. For the moment, we know no other species that writes code, makes music etc, but if we encounter one that does, their creations are equally valid. (Yes, also if it's a robot like the ones in sci fi, I think.) It's about how it was made and not by whom. That said, a hand is also a bit human-centric.

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                              • carl_gylling@mastodon.nuC carl_gylling@mastodon.nu

                                @mastodonmigration @viennawriter I don't like anything with "human" in it though, because it isn't a matter of species. For the moment, we know no other species that writes code, makes music etc, but if we encounter one that does, their creations are equally valid. (Yes, also if it's a robot like the ones in sci fi, I think.) It's about how it was made and not by whom. That said, a hand is also a bit human-centric.

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                                @Carl_Gylling @viennawriter

                                After sitting with it a while, agree. It feels like "human" has kind of a yuck factor used in this context. Leaning toward "AI Free" or "GenAI Free"

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                                • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                  @Carl_Gylling @viennawriter

                                  After sitting with it a while, agree. It feels like "human" has kind of a yuck factor used in this context. Leaning toward "AI Free" or "GenAI Free"

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                                  @Carl_Gylling @viennawriter

                                  Latest work in progress....

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                                  • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                    @AimeeMaroux

                                    Just fooling around with it now...

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                                    @mastodonmigration Putting the 'human made' inside the circle is confusing. Looks almost like it's banning human-made. Perhaps that text should be outside the circle? Things in the circle are banned!

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                                    • pre@boing.worldP pre@boing.world

                                      @mastodonmigration Putting the 'human made' inside the circle is confusing. Looks almost like it's banning human-made. Perhaps that text should be outside the circle? Things in the circle are banned!

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                                      @pre @mastodonmigration You need two logos, certified human, and certified AI free.

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                                      • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                        First rule of brainstorming is that there are no bad ideas, and the second rule is no disparaging anyone's contributions.

                                        If you read down here you may find suggestions that are half formed, but may lead your thoughts in a new direction. That's the process. We are all friends here. Let's noodle this one together.

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                                        OK team, what do we think of this?

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                                        • mastodonmigration@mastodon.onlineM mastodonmigration@mastodon.online

                                          OK team, what do we think of this?

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                                          @mastodonmigration I still don't like the word "GenAI" in there. After the logo above clearly says "no AI", the text saying "GenAI" suggests weasel-wording to the effect of "there might be some other sort of AI in here that we're not telling you about".

                                          To a normie audience, the scope of "GenAI" isn't clear. They might think it just means slop that originated from a small prompt, not "paraphrasing", "grammar correction", "summarization", "style change", "visual filters", "resolution enhancement", etc. that are all technically "generative" (confabulating bullshit details out of the statistical models) but which normies don't necessarily think of as such.

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