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  3. a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very".

a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very".

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  • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

    a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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    drorbedrack@mastodon.social
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    @bagder yes, I remember that meme from a few years ago. It's the kind of stuff techbros would do to feel superior. Do you also try to say "thank you" instead of "sorry"?

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    • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

      a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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      burak@gursoy.social
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      #45

      @bagder very interesting 🤔

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      • moritzdietz@mastodon.socialM moritzdietz@mastodon.social

        @bagder curl transfers are much secure

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        @moritzdietz @bagder
        Plenty secure

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        • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

          a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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          #47

          @bagder
          Verily

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          • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

            a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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            @bagder is there a tool you’re using for this? I didn’t see it mentioned in the replies. I remember using something called Alex to do this in the past.

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            • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

              a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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              risottobias@toot.risottobias.org
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              #49

              @bagder "just" / "simply"

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              • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                @bagder I agree, but I also say to myself "very very verbose" when typing this command:

                $ ssh -vvv

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                • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                  a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                  pixelcode@social.tchncs.de
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                  @bagder don't lie, I know your CI replaces “very” with “plus-”, which I find plusgood

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                  • richih@chaos.socialR richih@chaos.social

                    @derdilla @bagder @gruber very clever

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                    @RichiH @derdilla @bagder @gruber

                    much clever!

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                    • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                      @shaman007 it is too simple. There is almost always a better way to phrase the same thing without it. very happy = excited, very glad = thrilled, very hungry = starving, etc. So the use of "very" is a sign that it can be said better.

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                      @bagder @shaman007 so no very excited 😛

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                      • fraggle@social.coopF fraggle@social.coop

                        @bagder @gruber
                        Full list is here in case anyone else is curious like I was:
                        https://github.com/curl/curl/blob/master/.github/scripts/badwords.txt#L84

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                        #54

                        @fraggle @bagder @gruber what's the beef with contractions? ​

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                        • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                          a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                          nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social
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                          #55

                          @bagder That is very interesting. But I wonder if it's very necessary?

                          😁

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                          • brynet@bsd.networkB brynet@bsd.network

                            @fraggle @bagder @gruber what's the beef with contractions? ​

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                            @brynet @fraggle @gruber just a choice to use simpler language

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                            • iansu@cosocial.caI iansu@cosocial.ca

                              @bagder is there a tool you’re using for this? I didn’t see it mentioned in the replies. I remember using something called Alex to do this in the past.

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                              @iansu we have a custom script for it

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                              • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                                @shaman007 it is too simple. There is almost always a better way to phrase the same thing without it. very happy = excited, very glad = thrilled, very hungry = starving, etc. So the use of "very" is a sign that it can be said better.

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                                @bagder @shaman007 IMHO for technical documentation: simple is better. BTW. Some spellcheckers can help you write better style before even saving the text.

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                                • bitnacht@bitbang.socialB bitnacht@bitbang.social

                                  @bagder @shaman007 IMHO for technical documentation: simple is better. BTW. Some spellcheckers can help you write better style before even saving the text.

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                                  @bitnacht @shaman007 in a distributed world where everyone uses their own tools and editors we need the checks in CI anyway. Those are the rules that bind us all.

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                                  • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                                    @bitnacht @shaman007 in a distributed world where everyone uses their own tools and editors we need the checks in CI anyway. Those are the rules that bind us all.

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                                    @bagder @shaman007 I just don‘t think this example will either increase your productivity nor help the people reading the paragraphs in question. But if it makes you happy: keep up the enthusiasm.

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                                    • bitnacht@bitbang.socialB bitnacht@bitbang.social

                                      @bagder @shaman007 I just don‘t think this example will either increase your productivity nor help the people reading the paragraphs in question. But if it makes you happy: keep up the enthusiasm.

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                                      @bitnacht @shaman007 Writing coherent and good documentation is a huge task. Avoiding a single word is just a tiny little bit of that and will of course in itself not make much of a difference. But I am convinced using coherent, proper and easily read language helps users. So we try to do that.

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                                      • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                                        a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                                        and now I'm about to drop all uses of "just"... https://github.com/curl/curl/pull/20793

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                                        • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                                          @bitnacht @shaman007 Writing coherent and good documentation is a huge task. Avoiding a single word is just a tiny little bit of that and will of course in itself not make much of a difference. But I am convinced using coherent, proper and easily read language helps users. So we try to do that.

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                                          @bagder @shaman007 100% agree. And it is true that if you are forced to go over a text for a second time, you are likely to find ways to make it clearer and more concise along the way. So I see your point now.

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