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  3. a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very".

a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very".

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  • shaman007@mastodon.andreybondarenko.comS shaman007@mastodon.andreybondarenko.com

    @bagder for a non-native speaker, what exactly is not good with the word 'very'?

    bagder@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    @shaman007 it is too simple. There is almost always a better way to phrase the same thing without it. very happy = excited, very glad = thrilled, very hungry = starving, etc. So the use of "very" is a sign that it can be said better.

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    • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

      @shaman007 it is too simple. There is almost always a better way to phrase the same thing without it. very happy = excited, very glad = thrilled, very hungry = starving, etc. So the use of "very" is a sign that it can be said better.

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      @bagder o need to wrap my head around this, never thought about it before.

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      • shaman007@mastodon.andreybondarenko.comS shaman007@mastodon.andreybondarenko.com

        @bagder o need to wrap my head around this, never thought about it before.

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        @shaman007 it takes a little getting used to I admit, but I find that it helps me write better

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        • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

          @shaman007 it is too simple. There is almost always a better way to phrase the same thing without it. very happy = excited, very glad = thrilled, very hungry = starving, etc. So the use of "very" is a sign that it can be said better.

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          @bagder thank you, mmm... a lot. No, appreciate for your answer!

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          • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

            I can tell you that this bites me just about every time I write more than two sentences. Then I go back, edit and push a fixup commit and hope that I learned something. Again.

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            @bagder I also block "just" this way, and "easy"

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            • derickr@phpc.socialD derickr@phpc.social

              @bagder I also block "just" this way, and "easy"

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              @derickr I'm actually currently in process of doing the same for "just"!

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              • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                @bagder That sounds, good!

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                • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                  a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                  @bagder very good

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                  • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                    I can tell you that this bites me just about every time I write more than two sentences. Then I go back, edit and push a fixup commit and hope that I learned something. Again.

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                    @bagder that's very often

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                    • derdilla@mastodon.socialD derdilla@mastodon.social

                      @bagder @gruber You could even say that the code documents itself.

                      oh fuck...

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                      @derdilla @bagder @gruber very clever

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                      • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                        @shaman007 it is too simple. There is almost always a better way to phrase the same thing without it. very happy = excited, very glad = thrilled, very hungry = starving, etc. So the use of "very" is a sign that it can be said better.

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                        @bagder @shaman007 I would add to that point by saying that in technical writing, it's usually better to use adjectives to add information, rather than just adding emphasis. For me, the only information that "very" adds to a phrase like "WizWoz is very fast" is "Wow, it sure sounds like they really want me to believe that WizWoz is fast."

                        I'm going to be more skeptical than if the "very" hadn't been there! If WizWoz really were fast, they wouldn't need to throw in adjectives to persuade me.

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                        • lindsey@recurse.socialL lindsey@recurse.social

                          @bagder @shaman007 I would add to that point by saying that in technical writing, it's usually better to use adjectives to add information, rather than just adding emphasis. For me, the only information that "very" adds to a phrase like "WizWoz is very fast" is "Wow, it sure sounds like they really want me to believe that WizWoz is fast."

                          I'm going to be more skeptical than if the "very" hadn't been there! If WizWoz really were fast, they wouldn't need to throw in adjectives to persuade me.

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                          @lindsey @shaman007 indeed a good point!

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                          • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                            a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                            @bagder we did a similar sort of cleanup (not a CI check tho) in @bridgetown a while back removing the word "just". Nobody can "just" run this command or "just" install that plugin any more. 😅

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                            • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

                              @bagder I'm very glad you have such high standards!

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                              @geerlingguy
                              I am thorougly pleased as well. Very thoroughly.
                              @bagder

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                              • derickr@phpc.socialD derickr@phpc.social

                                @bagder I also block "just" this way, and "easy"

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                                @derickr @bagder From my code review experience of some Go projects I might need to follow your strict standards and ban:
                                - Super
                                - Blazing
                                - Fast
                                - Better
                                And their combinations

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                                • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                                  a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                                  @bagder

                                  $ curl -very http://curl.se > /dev/null 2>&1 ; echo $?
                                  0

                                  Huh?
                                  🤔
                                  The rabbit hole deepens!

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                                  • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                                    a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                                    @bagder yes, I remember that meme from a few years ago. It's the kind of stuff techbros would do to feel superior. Do you also try to say "thank you" instead of "sorry"?

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                                    • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                                      a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                                      @bagder very interesting 🤔

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                                      • moritzdietz@mastodon.socialM moritzdietz@mastodon.social

                                        @bagder curl transfers are much secure

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                                        @moritzdietz @bagder
                                        Plenty secure

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                                        • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                                          a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                                          @bagder
                                          Verily

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