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  3. a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very".

a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very".

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  • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

    I can tell you that this bites me just about every time I write more than two sentences. Then I go back, edit and push a fixup commit and hope that I learned something. Again.

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    @bagder that's very often

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    • derdilla@mastodon.socialD derdilla@mastodon.social

      @bagder @gruber You could even say that the code documents itself.

      oh fuck...

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      @derdilla @bagder @gruber very clever

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      • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

        @shaman007 it is too simple. There is almost always a better way to phrase the same thing without it. very happy = excited, very glad = thrilled, very hungry = starving, etc. So the use of "very" is a sign that it can be said better.

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        @bagder @shaman007 I would add to that point by saying that in technical writing, it's usually better to use adjectives to add information, rather than just adding emphasis. For me, the only information that "very" adds to a phrase like "WizWoz is very fast" is "Wow, it sure sounds like they really want me to believe that WizWoz is fast."

        I'm going to be more skeptical than if the "very" hadn't been there! If WizWoz really were fast, they wouldn't need to throw in adjectives to persuade me.

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        • lindsey@recurse.socialL lindsey@recurse.social

          @bagder @shaman007 I would add to that point by saying that in technical writing, it's usually better to use adjectives to add information, rather than just adding emphasis. For me, the only information that "very" adds to a phrase like "WizWoz is very fast" is "Wow, it sure sounds like they really want me to believe that WizWoz is fast."

          I'm going to be more skeptical than if the "very" hadn't been there! If WizWoz really were fast, they wouldn't need to throw in adjectives to persuade me.

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          @lindsey @shaman007 indeed a good point!

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          • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

            a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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            @bagder we did a similar sort of cleanup (not a CI check tho) in @bridgetown a while back removing the word "just". Nobody can "just" run this command or "just" install that plugin any more. 😅

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            • geerlingguy@mastodon.socialG geerlingguy@mastodon.social

              @bagder I'm very glad you have such high standards!

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              @geerlingguy
              I am thorougly pleased as well. Very thoroughly.
              @bagder

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              • derickr@phpc.socialD derickr@phpc.social

                @bagder I also block "just" this way, and "easy"

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                #42

                @derickr @bagder From my code review experience of some Go projects I might need to follow your strict standards and ban:
                - Super
                - Blazing
                - Fast
                - Better
                And their combinations

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                • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                  a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                  #43

                  @bagder

                  $ curl -very http://curl.se > /dev/null 2>&1 ; echo $?
                  0

                  Huh?
                  🤔
                  The rabbit hole deepens!

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                  • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                    a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                    #44

                    @bagder yes, I remember that meme from a few years ago. It's the kind of stuff techbros would do to feel superior. Do you also try to say "thank you" instead of "sorry"?

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                    • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                      a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                      @bagder very interesting 🤔

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                      • moritzdietz@mastodon.socialM moritzdietz@mastodon.social

                        @bagder curl transfers are much secure

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                        @moritzdietz @bagder
                        Plenty secure

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                        • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                          a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                          #47

                          @bagder
                          Verily

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                          • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                            a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                            @bagder is there a tool you’re using for this? I didn’t see it mentioned in the replies. I remember using something called Alex to do this in the past.

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                            • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                              a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                              risottobias@toot.risottobias.org
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                              @bagder "just" / "simply"

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                              • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                                a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                                @bagder I agree, but I also say to myself "very very verbose" when typing this command:

                                $ ssh -vvv

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                                • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                                  a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                                  @bagder don't lie, I know your CI replaces “very” with “plus-”, which I find plusgood

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                                  • richih@chaos.socialR richih@chaos.social

                                    @derdilla @bagder @gruber very clever

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                                    @RichiH @derdilla @bagder @gruber

                                    much clever!

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                                    • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                                      @shaman007 it is too simple. There is almost always a better way to phrase the same thing without it. very happy = excited, very glad = thrilled, very hungry = starving, etc. So the use of "very" is a sign that it can be said better.

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                                      @bagder @shaman007 so no very excited 😛

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                                      • fraggle@social.coopF fraggle@social.coop

                                        @bagder @gruber
                                        Full list is here in case anyone else is curious like I was:
                                        https://github.com/curl/curl/blob/master/.github/scripts/badwords.txt#L84

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                                        @fraggle @bagder @gruber what's the beef with contractions? ​

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                                        • bagder@mastodon.socialB bagder@mastodon.social

                                          a detail you probably didn't know: nowhere in any #curl documentation do we use the word "very". It is a banned word enforced by a CI check. This rule encourages us to rewrite and instead use more appropriate words. Makes us write better English.

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                                          @bagder That is very interesting. But I wonder if it's very necessary?

                                          😁

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