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  3. Both Meta & Microsoft have said they're shedding staff explicitly to free up cash flow to invest in AI;

Both Meta & Microsoft have said they're shedding staff explicitly to free up cash flow to invest in AI;

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    @beemoh @linuxgnome @ChrisMayLA6

    It's a weird thing because Microsoft made a really nice mobile GUI, and then rolled it into a desktop OS where it made no sense and everyone hated it. As a result, everyone also hated Windows Phone because they thought the UI would be as bad on the phone.

    It's a weird product where everyone I know who actually used it loved it, but everyone else hated it.

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    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

      @graydon @david_chisnall @linuxgnome @ChrisMayLA6

      The logical end-point after the node size bottoms out is going to be for the inherent deflation to become evident—fabs get amortized over time, so the product stops being premium and becomes a cash cow, and prices have to drop.

      Nvidia can't survive that. Intel can't survive that. They need something like the AI hyperscalers to keep demand high, but the demand is artificial, and actual consumer demand is soft if not soggy.

      Crash is inevitable.

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      @cstross @graydon @david_chisnall @linuxgnome @ChrisMayLA6

      An AI crash will absolutely happen, just like the Internet crash happened in 2001!

      Right now, the game is to position yourself as the Google or Amazon of AI, not the Excite or Pets.com

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      • kurtmrufa@dragon.styleK kurtmrufa@dragon.style

        @graydon @cstross @david_chisnall @linuxgnome @ChrisMayLA6 The percentage is only in marketing. There are only small improvements in power, performance, etc (like 10-15%) but with a doubling in mask costs. SRAMs and wires are not scaling and logic gates are no longer getting any cheaper to print.

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        @kurtmrufa @graydon @cstross @david_chisnall @linuxgnome @ChrisMayLA6

        Vertical stacking and the ability to wick away heat are where it's at now!

        And maybe quantum will start a new scale curve?

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          @mdm @graydon @david_chisnall @linuxgnome @ChrisMayLA6 Well you *can* if you use muons instead of electrons but then you have to do your computing inside a particle accelerator and everything is radioactive and on fire

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          @cstross @mdm @graydon @david_chisnall @linuxgnome @ChrisMayLA6

          TBH that sounds metal A F !

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          • dfyx@social.helios42.deD dfyx@social.helios42.de

            @david_chisnall It is, once again, a solution looking for the right problem.

            LLMs seem to have some uses where they're better than other solutions (translation might be one) but those are too niche to sell them to everyone on the planet.

            So they try to sell them as search engines, copywriters, programmers and a dozen other things just to attract more companies even if LLMs are a poor choice for their needs.

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            @dfyx @david_chisnall or translation might not be one: I learned of an example today (English -> French where the word "digit" got translated as "chiffre" (numerical digit) instead of "doigt" = "finger" that the original was talking about (in the context of workplace safety).

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