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Our biggest breakthrough in efficiency yet, the Framework Laptop 13 Pro with 20 hours of battery life.

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  • natanox@chaos.socialN natanox@chaos.social

    @komali_2 @alerque @frameworkcomputer But that assumes they *had* to do it for some other reason. Otherwise… they could've just made a really awesome, really well maintainable and repairable compact desktop PC. Sometimes you literally can't adhere to values because of the situation or outside forces, obviously… but it would be news to me something forced them to make a desktop PC with focus on AI given their laptops already sold really well.

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    @Natanox @alerque @frameworkcomputer They could also make and sell watches... ok, here's an article that explains the hardware reasoning behind it. It's not just because of AI workloads, the entire chipset required it to top out speeds https://hothardware.com/news/framework-desktop-ifixit-ram including for e.g. gaming. They did try hard to get a socketed version.

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    • frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.orgF frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org

      Our biggest breakthrough in efficiency yet, the Framework Laptop 13 Pro with 20 hours of battery life. In Graphite.

      Linux-first with options for Ubuntu pre-installed. Featuring Intel® Core™ Ultra Series 3 processors, LPCAMM2 Memory, a new haptic touchpad, and a touchscreen display.

      Pre-orders for the Framework Laptop 13 Pro open now: https://frame.work

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      @frameworkcomputer

      Still missing: an input cover with Trackpoint ... pleeeeeeeeaze! 🥺

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      • komali_2@mastodon.socialK komali_2@mastodon.social

        @Natanox @alerque @frameworkcomputer They could also make and sell watches... ok, here's an article that explains the hardware reasoning behind it. It's not just because of AI workloads, the entire chipset required it to top out speeds https://hothardware.com/news/framework-desktop-ifixit-ram including for e.g. gaming. They did try hard to get a socketed version.

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        @komali_2 @alerque @frameworkcomputer Gaming is no argument since nothing forced them to use this chipset at all. They could've also centered the machine around a Mini-ITX board with dedicated GPU in some super-compact form factor (e.g. low profile or single slot height with PCIe riser) which would provide equal or better gaming performance. The only real reason it *had* to be this chipset I can think of is AI workload.

        Like, I understand where you're coming from… but it didn't have to be this.

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        • raccoon@hollow.raccoon.questR raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
          @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org
          Cool beans, but are you still buddy buddy with nazis?
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          @raccoon @frameworkcomputer Apparently yes: https://mastodon.social/@alatiera/116448099415399952

          (cc @theNotFractured )

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          • raccoon@hollow.raccoon.questR raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
            @theNotFractured@mstdn.social @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org
            They endorse and fund omarchy linux and hyprland, both are known to have far right members.
            You can look this up and find deets on your preferred websites.
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            @raccoon @frameworkcomputer @theNotFractured
            I only know of providing hardware for testing and research which is in the interest of a company providing .. hardware
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            • aesdeef@tech.lgbtA aesdeef@tech.lgbt

              @raccoon @frameworkcomputer Apparently yes: https://mastodon.social/@alatiera/116448099415399952

              (cc @theNotFractured )

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              @aesdeef@tech.lgbt @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org @theNotFractured@mstdn.social
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              • raccoon@hollow.raccoon.questR raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
                @aesdeef@tech.lgbt @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org @theNotFractured@mstdn.social
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                @raccoon @frameworkcomputer @aesdeef Bro made a visualizer for us 😭

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                • dagda@netzsphaere.xyzD dagda@netzsphaere.xyz
                  @raccoon @frameworkcomputer @theNotFractured
                  I only know of providing hardware for testing and research which is in the interest of a company providing .. hardware
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                  @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org @theNotFractured@mstdn.social
                  As a business owner one has the freedom to chose who to serve.
                  This bloke refused to provide service for the same reason:

                  https://youtu.be/mUddr8fipWw

                  If I sold hardware I, for example, would refuse to sell to AI companies.
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                  • raccoon@hollow.raccoon.questR raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
                    @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org @theNotFractured@mstdn.social
                    As a business owner one has the freedom to chose who to serve.
                    This bloke refused to provide service for the same reason:

                    https://youtu.be/mUddr8fipWw

                    If I sold hardware I, for example, would refuse to sell to AI companies.
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                    @raccoon @frameworkcomputer @theNotFractured
                    it is not the same reason. The knife repair guy refused to repair nazi devotionals. He wouldn't have known if the customers came with a normal kitchen knife and happened to be nazis.
                    Because the equivalent in terms of Hyprland and Omarchy would be if the software opened a terminal with a spinning Hakenkreuz on every boot, but this isn't the case, the software itself doesn't propagate anything comparable.

                    If the knife repair guy operated like parts of the free software community the comparison would be as follows:
                    - store closed until you knock on the door and fill out a form with anything you ever said online filled in
                    - repair guy refuses service because you made a racist joke 11 years ago
                    - shares everything you ever said online with all small business in the world and expect them to do the same

                    I haven't looked into the Hyprland dev. Omarchy devs xenophobic views were shared *on his personal blog* and as far as I looked into it don't appear to endorse anything related to neonazi ideology. As long as there is no proof of him denying capable contributors on account of race there is nothing about his views that affects free software or open hardware in a direct negative fashion. Now compare that to the amount of witch hunters criticizing Framework for their business decisions while using and paying for Microsoft Windows, a product that is factually accumulating profit for a corporation dedicated to imperialist war, genocide, unfreedom of users and workers and fusion with a surveillance deep state. The way free software will eat itself in purity spirals while leaving alone the big fish (even getting money from them often) demonstrates how FAGMAN probably infested it with spies and paid troublemakers and it's working out perfectly.
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                    • frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.orgF frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org

                      Our biggest breakthrough in efficiency yet, the Framework Laptop 13 Pro with 20 hours of battery life. In Graphite.

                      Linux-first with options for Ubuntu pre-installed. Featuring Intel® Core™ Ultra Series 3 processors, LPCAMM2 Memory, a new haptic touchpad, and a touchscreen display.

                      Pre-orders for the Framework Laptop 13 Pro open now: https://frame.work

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                      @frameworkcomputer Do you get the 4W netflix streaming on Ubuntu #Linux ? i'd be surprised

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                      • freechelmi@mastodon.socialF freechelmi@mastodon.social

                        @frameworkcomputer Do you get the 4W netflix streaming on Ubuntu #Linux ? i'd be surprised

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                        @freechelmi @frameworkcomputer no it’s just a measuring point that can be made for comparison. Something the layman can understand versus some obscure battery benchmark. Apple uses similar examples.

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                        • cienmilojos@infosec.exchangeC cienmilojos@infosec.exchange

                          @freechelmi @frameworkcomputer no it’s just a measuring point that can be made for comparison. Something the layman can understand versus some obscure battery benchmark. Apple uses similar examples.

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                          @cienmilojos @frameworkcomputer well i need to know if it s achievable on linux , website says w11 foe now

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                          • freechelmi@mastodon.socialF freechelmi@mastodon.social

                            @cienmilojos @frameworkcomputer well i need to know if it s achievable on linux , website says w11 foe now

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                            @freechelmi @frameworkcomputer currently no. Only Wildvine L3, software DRM on Linux in browser. It’s not something Framework can fix. Good question though.

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