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Our biggest breakthrough in efficiency yet, the Framework Laptop 13 Pro with 20 hours of battery life.

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  • frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.orgF frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org

    Our biggest breakthrough in efficiency yet, the Framework Laptop 13 Pro with 20 hours of battery life. In Graphite.

    Linux-first with options for Ubuntu pre-installed. Featuring Intel® Core™ Ultra Series 3 processors, LPCAMM2 Memory, a new haptic touchpad, and a touchscreen display.

    Pre-orders for the Framework Laptop 13 Pro open now: https://frame.work

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    @frameworkcomputer Be nice if this could be ordered without the fascism.

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    • frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.orgF frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org

      Our biggest breakthrough in efficiency yet, the Framework Laptop 13 Pro with 20 hours of battery life. In Graphite.

      Linux-first with options for Ubuntu pre-installed. Featuring Intel® Core™ Ultra Series 3 processors, LPCAMM2 Memory, a new haptic touchpad, and a touchscreen display.

      Pre-orders for the Framework Laptop 13 Pro open now: https://frame.work

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      @frameworkcomputer Still no shipping to Philippines means no purchase from me.

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      • frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.orgF frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org

        Our biggest breakthrough in efficiency yet, the Framework Laptop 13 Pro with 20 hours of battery life. In Graphite.

        Linux-first with options for Ubuntu pre-installed. Featuring Intel® Core™ Ultra Series 3 processors, LPCAMM2 Memory, a new haptic touchpad, and a touchscreen display.

        Pre-orders for the Framework Laptop 13 Pro open now: https://frame.work

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        @frameworkcomputer All the new parts still compatible with the original 13"! Hats off guys - that's no small engineering feat. Good on you for staying true to your word.

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        • frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.orgF frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org

          Our biggest breakthrough in efficiency yet, the Framework Laptop 13 Pro with 20 hours of battery life. In Graphite.

          Linux-first with options for Ubuntu pre-installed. Featuring Intel® Core™ Ultra Series 3 processors, LPCAMM2 Memory, a new haptic touchpad, and a touchscreen display.

          Pre-orders for the Framework Laptop 13 Pro open now: https://frame.work

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          @frameworkcomputer You're doing a great job! I've had my 13" amd version for 2+ years and never had a single issue. Seeing how the company grows, continues releasing new products while keeping upgradeability in mind is impressive!
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          • frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.orgF frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org

            Our biggest breakthrough in efficiency yet, the Framework Laptop 13 Pro with 20 hours of battery life. In Graphite.

            Linux-first with options for Ubuntu pre-installed. Featuring Intel® Core™ Ultra Series 3 processors, LPCAMM2 Memory, a new haptic touchpad, and a touchscreen display.

            Pre-orders for the Framework Laptop 13 Pro open now: https://frame.work

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            @frameworkcomputer Can I buy from Malaysia?

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            • alerque@mastodon.socialA alerque@mastodon.social

              @frameworkcomputer Bah! Whats the point it upgradable systems if you come out with overhauls this big? I want one but my current FW13 already fits my use case.

              What part would I have to upgrade to get the battery life?

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              @alerque @frameworkcomputer To add what the other person said, just to get the upgraded battery you'd need to upgrade the bottom case and input, which they're going to sell as a kit eventually. And obviously the new battery itself.

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              • natanox@chaos.socialN natanox@chaos.social

                @alerque @frameworkcomputer I indeed was talking about their products in general.

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                @Natanox @alerque @frameworkcomputer The ram thing on the desktop was to achieve high speeds for AI workloads, there just wasn't a way to do it with unsoldered ram. Their laptops have all always had removable RAM.

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                • komali_2@mastodon.socialK komali_2@mastodon.social

                  @Natanox @alerque @frameworkcomputer The ram thing on the desktop was to achieve high speeds for AI workloads, there just wasn't a way to do it with unsoldered ram. Their laptops have all always had removable RAM.

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                  @komali_2 @alerque @frameworkcomputer I know their argument, but that doesn't change the fact they managed to make the desktop, a well repairable and modular concept, *less* repairable in a way usually only seen in the very laptops they try to position themselves as alternative for. And the reason for that seriously was something as controversial as "AI".

                  To throw the whole company image and supposed "ideals" under the bus for this was and still is absurd.

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                  • natanox@chaos.socialN natanox@chaos.social

                    @komali_2 @alerque @frameworkcomputer I know their argument, but that doesn't change the fact they managed to make the desktop, a well repairable and modular concept, *less* repairable in a way usually only seen in the very laptops they try to position themselves as alternative for. And the reason for that seriously was something as controversial as "AI".

                    To throw the whole company image and supposed "ideals" under the bus for this was and still is absurd.

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                    @Natanox @alerque @frameworkcomputer

                    In my opinion AI isn't as controversial as many on mastodon seem to think. Capitalist company gonna capitalism and an AI workstation was such a desired niche product that they sold out instantly and were batched out for a while.

                    I also am not a fan of these kinds of profit-minded decisions but I'm not sure what the realistic alternative is within this current system.

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                    • komali_2@mastodon.socialK komali_2@mastodon.social

                      @Natanox @alerque @frameworkcomputer

                      In my opinion AI isn't as controversial as many on mastodon seem to think. Capitalist company gonna capitalism and an AI workstation was such a desired niche product that they sold out instantly and were batched out for a while.

                      I also am not a fan of these kinds of profit-minded decisions but I'm not sure what the realistic alternative is within this current system.

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                      @komali_2 @alerque @frameworkcomputer Even if we take the controversy around AI out of the equation (and it indeed is one for a myriad of reasons, the culture on Mastodon just looks at it from a certain perspective; go to a town near a datacenter and it quickly becomes about QoL, polution and prices)… it's still utter nonsense to abandon the whole reason your company exists. Repairability and modularity literally are the only reason Framework is a thing.

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                      • natanox@chaos.socialN natanox@chaos.social

                        @komali_2 @alerque @frameworkcomputer Even if we take the controversy around AI out of the equation (and it indeed is one for a myriad of reasons, the culture on Mastodon just looks at it from a certain perspective; go to a town near a datacenter and it quickly becomes about QoL, polution and prices)… it's still utter nonsense to abandon the whole reason your company exists. Repairability and modularity literally are the only reason Framework is a thing.

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                        @Natanox @alerque @frameworkcomputer I mean, I hear you, but it was physically impossible to achieve the requisite RAM speeds without soldering it. Every other component is replaceable. You can't replace the chips on laptop boards either, sometimes there's just physical realities that prevent a perfect adherence to values.

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                        • komali_2@mastodon.socialK komali_2@mastodon.social

                          @Natanox @alerque @frameworkcomputer I mean, I hear you, but it was physically impossible to achieve the requisite RAM speeds without soldering it. Every other component is replaceable. You can't replace the chips on laptop boards either, sometimes there's just physical realities that prevent a perfect adherence to values.

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                          @komali_2 @alerque @frameworkcomputer But that assumes they *had* to do it for some other reason. Otherwise… they could've just made a really awesome, really well maintainable and repairable compact desktop PC. Sometimes you literally can't adhere to values because of the situation or outside forces, obviously… but it would be news to me something forced them to make a desktop PC with focus on AI given their laptops already sold really well.

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                          • natanox@chaos.socialN natanox@chaos.social

                            @komali_2 @alerque @frameworkcomputer But that assumes they *had* to do it for some other reason. Otherwise… they could've just made a really awesome, really well maintainable and repairable compact desktop PC. Sometimes you literally can't adhere to values because of the situation or outside forces, obviously… but it would be news to me something forced them to make a desktop PC with focus on AI given their laptops already sold really well.

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                            @Natanox @alerque @frameworkcomputer They could also make and sell watches... ok, here's an article that explains the hardware reasoning behind it. It's not just because of AI workloads, the entire chipset required it to top out speeds https://hothardware.com/news/framework-desktop-ifixit-ram including for e.g. gaming. They did try hard to get a socketed version.

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                            • frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.orgF frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org

                              Our biggest breakthrough in efficiency yet, the Framework Laptop 13 Pro with 20 hours of battery life. In Graphite.

                              Linux-first with options for Ubuntu pre-installed. Featuring Intel® Core™ Ultra Series 3 processors, LPCAMM2 Memory, a new haptic touchpad, and a touchscreen display.

                              Pre-orders for the Framework Laptop 13 Pro open now: https://frame.work

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                              @frameworkcomputer

                              Still missing: an input cover with Trackpoint ... pleeeeeeeeaze! 🥺

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                              • komali_2@mastodon.socialK komali_2@mastodon.social

                                @Natanox @alerque @frameworkcomputer They could also make and sell watches... ok, here's an article that explains the hardware reasoning behind it. It's not just because of AI workloads, the entire chipset required it to top out speeds https://hothardware.com/news/framework-desktop-ifixit-ram including for e.g. gaming. They did try hard to get a socketed version.

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                                @komali_2 @alerque @frameworkcomputer Gaming is no argument since nothing forced them to use this chipset at all. They could've also centered the machine around a Mini-ITX board with dedicated GPU in some super-compact form factor (e.g. low profile or single slot height with PCIe riser) which would provide equal or better gaming performance. The only real reason it *had* to be this chipset I can think of is AI workload.

                                Like, I understand where you're coming from… but it didn't have to be this.

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                                • raccoon@hollow.raccoon.questR raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
                                  @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org
                                  Cool beans, but are you still buddy buddy with nazis?
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                                  @raccoon @frameworkcomputer Apparently yes: https://mastodon.social/@alatiera/116448099415399952

                                  (cc @theNotFractured )

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                                  • raccoon@hollow.raccoon.questR raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
                                    @theNotFractured@mstdn.social @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org
                                    They endorse and fund omarchy linux and hyprland, both are known to have far right members.
                                    You can look this up and find deets on your preferred websites.
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                                    @raccoon @frameworkcomputer @theNotFractured
                                    I only know of providing hardware for testing and research which is in the interest of a company providing .. hardware
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                                      @raccoon @frameworkcomputer Apparently yes: https://mastodon.social/@alatiera/116448099415399952

                                      (cc @theNotFractured )

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                                      @aesdeef@tech.lgbt @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org @theNotFractured@mstdn.social
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                                      • raccoon@hollow.raccoon.questR raccoon@hollow.raccoon.quest
                                        @aesdeef@tech.lgbt @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org @theNotFractured@mstdn.social
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                                        @raccoon @frameworkcomputer @aesdeef Bro made a visualizer for us 😭

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                                        • dagda@netzsphaere.xyzD dagda@netzsphaere.xyz
                                          @raccoon @frameworkcomputer @theNotFractured
                                          I only know of providing hardware for testing and research which is in the interest of a company providing .. hardware
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                                          @dagda@netzsphaere.xyz @frameworkcomputer@fosstodon.org @theNotFractured@mstdn.social
                                          As a business owner one has the freedom to chose who to serve.
                                          This bloke refused to provide service for the same reason:

                                          https://youtu.be/mUddr8fipWw

                                          If I sold hardware I, for example, would refuse to sell to AI companies.
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