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Much damage has been done to our societies and the #climate due to #fossilFuels

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  • benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    Much damage has been done to our societies and the #climate due to #fossilFuels

    The alternative was always there, but it was systematically destroyed

    Appreciate the irony though:

    Big Oil's decline has been ensured by their greatest triumph, #Trump

    The stupid war on #Iran means every country will move off #oil

    #China's #EV makers are kings of the world now

    "‘The damage is done’: global oil crisis has changed fossil fuel industry for ever, #IEA chief says"

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    ‘The damage is done’: global oil crisis has changed fossil fuel industry for ever, IEA chief says

    Exclusive: International Energy Agency’s Fatih Birol, the world’s leading energy economist, also says UK should largely forgo North Sea expansion

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    the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

    tjc_2@mastodon.socialT tinjar@mastodon.socialT bnlandor@mastodon.socialB 3 Replies Last reply
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    • fullrange@pixelfed.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2
      Tomorrows spot market price of electricity is -55ct/kWh so charging your car middays can reward ~30€ now what fuel crisis?
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        @SteveJB

        in the #USA, all we can do is cry:

        "#China car giant #BYD says it can thrive without #US"

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        China car giant BYD says it can thrive without access to US market

        With the price of fuel rising China's BYD says it is positioning itself to benefit from the global shift away from fossil fuels.

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        (www.bbc.com)

        the rest of the world?

        a massive #EV push through the roof

        in #Australia BYD recently dumped a bunch of EVs to benefit from subsidies that were running out. but they were worried they'd have to sit on a massive stockpile of #cars that would go unsold for a long time

        nope

        the stupid #IranWar hit and sales shot to the moon in Australia, with a massive waiting list

        mls14@social.vivaldi.netM kierkegaanks@beige.partyK mason@partychickens.netM 3 Replies Last reply
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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          Much damage has been done to our societies and the #climate due to #fossilFuels

          The alternative was always there, but it was systematically destroyed

          Appreciate the irony though:

          Big Oil's decline has been ensured by their greatest triumph, #Trump

          The stupid war on #Iran means every country will move off #oil

          #China's #EV makers are kings of the world now

          "‘The damage is done’: global oil crisis has changed fossil fuel industry for ever, #IEA chief says"

          Link Preview Image
          ‘The damage is done’: global oil crisis has changed fossil fuel industry for ever, IEA chief says

          Exclusive: International Energy Agency’s Fatih Birol, the world’s leading energy economist, also says UK should largely forgo North Sea expansion

          favicon

          the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

          tjc_2@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @benroyce
          "No Nukes is Good Nukes"...a slogan still worth repeating.

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          • tjc_2@mastodon.socialT tjc_2@mastodon.social

            @benroyce
            "No Nukes is Good Nukes"...a slogan still worth repeating.

            benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
            benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @TJC_2

            what are you talking about? how is that related

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            • fullrange@pixelfed.socialF fullrange@pixelfed.social
              Tomorrows spot market price of electricity is -55ct/kWh so charging your car middays can reward ~30€ now what fuel crisis?
              benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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              @fullrange

              i understand what you're saying but what you're saying is alien to many people (like americans):

              electricity prices can go negative

              they pay you to take electricity

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              • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                @SteveJB

                in the #USA, all we can do is cry:

                "#China car giant #BYD says it can thrive without #US"

                Link Preview Image
                China car giant BYD says it can thrive without access to US market

                With the price of fuel rising China's BYD says it is positioning itself to benefit from the global shift away from fossil fuels.

                favicon

                (www.bbc.com)

                the rest of the world?

                a massive #EV push through the roof

                in #Australia BYD recently dumped a bunch of EVs to benefit from subsidies that were running out. but they were worried they'd have to sit on a massive stockpile of #cars that would go unsold for a long time

                nope

                the stupid #IranWar hit and sales shot to the moon in Australia, with a massive waiting list

                mls14@social.vivaldi.netM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @benroyce @SteveJB I got my cheap VW EV in Jan 2016. I thought I was an early adopter in something that would sweep the nation.

                I greatly overestimated the intelligence of my fellow Americans. We could all be driving EVs now, blissfully leaving oil behind as a world economy-controlling commodity.

                benroyce@mastodon.socialB cejjacobs@mastodon.socialC alexlubertozzi@mastodon.socialA 3 Replies Last reply
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                • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                  Much damage has been done to our societies and the #climate due to #fossilFuels

                  The alternative was always there, but it was systematically destroyed

                  Appreciate the irony though:

                  Big Oil's decline has been ensured by their greatest triumph, #Trump

                  The stupid war on #Iran means every country will move off #oil

                  #China's #EV makers are kings of the world now

                  "‘The damage is done’: global oil crisis has changed fossil fuel industry for ever, #IEA chief says"

                  Link Preview Image
                  ‘The damage is done’: global oil crisis has changed fossil fuel industry for ever, IEA chief says

                  Exclusive: International Energy Agency’s Fatih Birol, the world’s leading energy economist, also says UK should largely forgo North Sea expansion

                  favicon

                  the Guardian (www.theguardian.com)

                  tinjar@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                  tinjar@mastodon.social
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                  @benroyce

                  True.
                  But there is another possibility - in the oil endgame - the war drives up the market share and profits for US oil/gas companies as their competitors are gutted. More money to subvert US politics. They will not go away that easily. Plus they enjoy bipartisan support in the US.

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                  • mls14@social.vivaldi.netM mls14@social.vivaldi.net

                    @benroyce @SteveJB I got my cheap VW EV in Jan 2016. I thought I was an early adopter in something that would sweep the nation.

                    I greatly overestimated the intelligence of my fellow Americans. We could all be driving EVs now, blissfully leaving oil behind as a world economy-controlling commodity.

                    benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @mls14 @SteveJB

                    It's rather disturbing how plutocracy and their media has hacked the minds of millions of Americans where dry issues like energy policy become an almost religious aspect of identity. All hail holy oil

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                    • tinjar@mastodon.socialT tinjar@mastodon.social

                      @benroyce

                      True.
                      But there is another possibility - in the oil endgame - the war drives up the market share and profits for US oil/gas companies as their competitors are gutted. More money to subvert US politics. They will not go away that easily. Plus they enjoy bipartisan support in the US.

                      benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @TinJar

                      Doesn't matter. You're describing more power in a dying system. The world will just move on and the USA will be stuck in its own bullshit

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                      • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                        @SteveJB

                        in the #USA, all we can do is cry:

                        "#China car giant #BYD says it can thrive without #US"

                        Link Preview Image
                        China car giant BYD says it can thrive without access to US market

                        With the price of fuel rising China's BYD says it is positioning itself to benefit from the global shift away from fossil fuels.

                        favicon

                        (www.bbc.com)

                        the rest of the world?

                        a massive #EV push through the roof

                        in #Australia BYD recently dumped a bunch of EVs to benefit from subsidies that were running out. but they were worried they'd have to sit on a massive stockpile of #cars that would go unsold for a long time

                        nope

                        the stupid #IranWar hit and sales shot to the moon in Australia, with a massive waiting list

                        kierkegaanks@beige.partyK This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @SteveJB @benroyce the parasitic oligarchy has left consumers penniless

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                        • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

                          @SteveJB @benroyce the parasitic oligarchy has left consumers penniless

                          benroyce@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Kierkegaanks @SteveJB but the consumers are leaving. forever. the drug dealer fucked up

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @TJC_2

                            what are you talking about? how is that related

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                            @benroyce
                            Oops...Sorry about the mix up. I think that was meant for another post. I can only blame it on my poor cognition or my fat fingers hitting the wrong keys. lol.

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                            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                              @TinJar

                              Doesn't matter. You're describing more power in a dying system. The world will just move on and the USA will be stuck in its own bullshit

                              tinjar@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @benroyce

                              Really hate that part - considering it would have been so easy for the US to transition to solar/wind/batteries/EV. So many states are already doing that despite the insane opposition.

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                              • tinjar@mastodon.socialT tinjar@mastodon.social

                                @benroyce

                                Really hate that part - considering it would have been so easy for the US to transition to solar/wind/batteries/EV. So many states are already doing that despite the insane opposition.

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                                @TinJar @benroyce and we should just keep doing it!

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                                • tamarasellman@social.seattle.wa.usT tamarasellman@social.seattle.wa.us

                                  @TinJar @benroyce and we should just keep doing it!

                                  tinjar@mastodon.socialT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @tamarasellman @benroyce

                                  💯

                                  And vote out the ones who shilling for the oil/gas companies. They are so desperate to the rig the system - they are trying to pass a bill that will almost make them immune from litigation.

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                                  • tinjar@mastodon.socialT tinjar@mastodon.social

                                    @tamarasellman @benroyce

                                    💯

                                    And vote out the ones who shilling for the oil/gas companies. They are so desperate to the rig the system - they are trying to pass a bill that will almost make them immune from litigation.

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                                    @TinJar @benroyce I’m in.

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                                    • mls14@social.vivaldi.netM mls14@social.vivaldi.net

                                      @benroyce @SteveJB I got my cheap VW EV in Jan 2016. I thought I was an early adopter in something that would sweep the nation.

                                      I greatly overestimated the intelligence of my fellow Americans. We could all be driving EVs now, blissfully leaving oil behind as a world economy-controlling commodity.

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                                      @mls14 I made the calculation to buy EV in 2017 based on a diesel price of €1,14, as economical viable. At current prices of double that value, people still argue electric is too expensive… It looks like only the Chinese have understood electrification.

                                      @benroyce @SteveJB

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                                      • tjc_2@mastodon.socialT tjc_2@mastodon.social

                                        @benroyce
                                        Oops...Sorry about the mix up. I think that was meant for another post. I can only blame it on my poor cognition or my fat fingers hitting the wrong keys. lol.

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                                        @TJC_2 been there, done that!

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                                        • mls14@social.vivaldi.netM mls14@social.vivaldi.net

                                          @benroyce @SteveJB I got my cheap VW EV in Jan 2016. I thought I was an early adopter in something that would sweep the nation.

                                          I greatly overestimated the intelligence of my fellow Americans. We could all be driving EVs now, blissfully leaving oil behind as a world economy-controlling commodity.

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                                          @mls14 @benroyce @SteveJB We got our Kia EV6 in 2023, and it’s by far the best car I’ve ever driven, let alone owned. There need to be cheaper options, for sure, but I can’t understand more people not switching to EVs.

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