The maddening thing about current Gender Discourse is that motherfuckers really will say "There's a male loneliness crisis" while listening to podcasters who tell you to treat all women as objects and all men as rivals.
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@TheZeldaZone these podcasts are the result, not the source of the loneliness.
@RyszardD Ehhh, I doubt most guys like Tate are genuine fallout they're doing it for a bit like Cadence Owens. I'm sure there are real ones too, but the ones I always see in the news seem to be older conservative guys doing a bit. Andrew Tate is 39.
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@dryak @zompus @TheZeldaZone Hold on, someone said that doing stuff with women was gay? They have desperately misunderstood what sexuality is. They probably think it's fishing or football or shooting things with guns you carry around in a rack in your truck.
@StarkRG @dryak @zompus @TheZeldaZone worse, they think that if you’re doing anything with women that isn’t on a trajectory to try to get in their pants, you’re gay
And society is wrong for telling them they’re fucking weird for this
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As far as I can fathom, it's a social media myth. Any differences between genders are slight either way, or non-existent as far as I've seen. The biggest differences seem to be between age groups, with older people generally being less lonely.
"About one-in-six Americans (16%) say they feel lonely or isolated from those around them all or most of the time – including roughly equal shares of men and women. About four-in-ten adults (38%) say they sometimes feel lonely, and 47% say they hardly ever or never do.
While experiences with loneliness don’t differ much by gender, they do differ significantly by age.
Adults younger than 50 are much more likely than those ages 50 and older to say they often feel lonely (22% vs. 9%). Across age groups, adults 65 and older are the most likely to say they hardly ever or never feel this way (66%)."
@Sir_Osis_of_Liver @TheZeldaZone
I don’t think loneliness in the US is a social media myth.
Kids and young adults are looking for companionship in AI! for example.
US society is individualistic, tribalistic, and exclusionary, and technology has made it worse.
Kids, for example, learn how to interact with others by playing, but there is much less playing time these days with schedules full of activities.
And the job environment is not better, full of surface interactions only. -
@RyszardD Ehhh, I doubt most guys like Tate are genuine fallout they're doing it for a bit like Cadence Owens. I'm sure there are real ones too, but the ones I always see in the news seem to be older conservative guys doing a bit. Andrew Tate is 39.
Fuck those assholes,
making money by selling machismo and bigotry to young vulnerable kids. -
@StarkRG @dryak @zompus @TheZeldaZone worse, they think that if you’re doing anything with women that isn’t on a trajectory to try to get in their pants, you’re gay
And society is wrong for telling them they’re fucking weird for this
@StarkRG @dryak @zompus @TheZeldaZone also I’m going to have to channel my inner bbno$ and insist all straight men try getting fucked at least once and preferably twice, even though they’re going to say “but that’s gay”
They’re missing out. I regretfully didn’t learn this until like a year ago.
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@TheZeldaZone The formula that explains all of this is simple. Ads work better on gullible people. One finds gullible people by creating content that normal people reject, but gullible people don't. Serve ads on that content & profit. This toxic masculinity content, that for normal people is easy to see is nonsense, is just one of the many types specifically crafted to appeal to a critical thinking deficient audience that will click ads. This is the mainstream internet now.
That’s how you build a religion, a political party, a fascist movement, an army…
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The maddening thing about current Gender Discourse is that motherfuckers really will say "There's a male loneliness crisis" while listening to podcasters who tell you to treat all women as objects and all men as rivals.
You've just eliminated roughly 100% of the human population from the possibility of being your friend. Of course you're lonely.
@TheZeldaZone Maybe the number of misogynists, who have typically been friends of other misogynists, is decreasing, and that is causing the loneliness among the traditional male population. Maybe maleness is changing. (Could be good)
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@TheZeldaZone but like, couldn't the causal arrow just as easily go the other way? there is a market for these podcasts because there is a loneliness epidemic?
@joshbuddy @TheZeldaZone Funny, I've been lonely at points in my life but it's never turned me into a raging loser misogynist.
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@RyszardD Ehhh, I doubt most guys like Tate are genuine fallout they're doing it for a bit like Cadence Owens. I'm sure there are real ones too, but the ones I always see in the news seem to be older conservative guys doing a bit. Andrew Tate is 39.
@TheZeldaZone I don't understand.
what I mean is that lonely men search for solutions to their problems and fall for grifters like Tate. Not the other way around. -
@joshbuddy @TheZeldaZone Funny, I've been lonely at points in my life but it's never turned me into a raging loser misogynist.
@ShaulaEvans @TheZeldaZone well sure, but being lonely might make your more susceptible for that kind of "programming". cults, as an example, prey on the lonely. the misogyny peeps kind of seem like a cult to me i guess, so that's where i was coming from
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The maddening thing about current Gender Discourse is that motherfuckers really will say "There's a male loneliness crisis" while listening to podcasters who tell you to treat all women as objects and all men as rivals.
You've just eliminated roughly 100% of the human population from the possibility of being your friend. Of course you're lonely.
@TheZeldaZone there's a loneliness crisis alright, it came free with the capitalistic hellscape we live in. it's just that dudes with microphones are wayyy more insufferable about it EVERYONE'S LONELY STEWART, YOU'RE NOT SPECIAL
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The maddening thing about current Gender Discourse is that motherfuckers really will say "There's a male loneliness crisis" while listening to podcasters who tell you to treat all women as objects and all men as rivals.
You've just eliminated roughly 100% of the human population from the possibility of being your friend. Of course you're lonely.
@TheZeldaZone there is a serious trans loneliness crisis happening. LGBTs are also lonely. women too. Everyone is lonely
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@random_regret @TheZeldaZone I knew guys like that. 99% of them refuse to change when presented with the opportunities. They'd rather wallow and be mad women won't have sex with them instead of accepting they're wrong and fixing the problems
Suicide sucks I've lost many people. I'm still not going to put myself in harms way to manage any man's feelings. Most of them in the manosphere are abusive in some way, why should anyone put up with that in the hopes they'll change? -
@random_regret @TheZeldaZone I knew guys like that. 99% of them refuse to change when presented with the opportunities. They'd rather wallow and be mad women won't have sex with them instead of accepting they're wrong and fixing the problems
Suicide sucks I've lost many people. I'm still not going to put myself in harms way to manage any man's feelings. Most of them in the manosphere are abusive in some way, why should anyone put up with that in the hopes they'll change?@random_regret @TheZeldaZone And I'm not just talking out of my ass I see it all the time on and offline. I've lived it, from the women's end.
It's a self inflicted problem and won't get better if men refuse to help themselves and stop being assholes
Not saying some men don't need help or we should all shit on them. Just saying no one else is gonna change you, you gotta do it yourself -
@StarkRG @dryak @TheZeldaZone Remember when people were so homophobic that they had to invent the word "meterosexual" to describe men who both washed their hair and wanted to date women
@zompus @StarkRG @dryak @TheZeldaZone skinny jeans
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@StarkRG @dryak @zompus @TheZeldaZone also I’m going to have to channel my inner bbno$ and insist all straight men try getting fucked at least once and preferably twice, even though they’re going to say “but that’s gay”
They’re missing out. I regretfully didn’t learn this until like a year ago.
@ZiggyTheHamster @dryak @zompus @TheZeldaZone
The puritans have a _lot_ to answer for. Fuck do I ever wish I grew up in a sex-positive society. My parents caught the tail end of the hippy, MDMA-fuelled, free-love movement and somehow still managed to be sexually repressed and emotionally unavailable.
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The maddening thing about current Gender Discourse is that motherfuckers really will say "There's a male loneliness crisis" while listening to podcasters who tell you to treat all women as objects and all men as rivals.
You've just eliminated roughly 100% of the human population from the possibility of being your friend. Of course you're lonely.
@TheZeldaZone Best part of all is how men cry about no one liking them yet will literally kill a woman if she turns down sex or a date. She's a bitch for not going home with you, she's a stupid whore if she does and you rape or kill her
Hard to be sympathetic towards people who don't even see me as a person -
It's true that the manosphere is completely made up of grifters and those they prey on
Another huge target market for them is young men on the autism spectrum, who are just doing a web search on 'how to date women'
(And of course it is also true that the manosphere is about teaching men to victimize women, and that part of how we fight back against that is by making fun of it)
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@RyszardD Ehhh, I doubt most guys like Tate are genuine fallout they're doing it for a bit like Cadence Owens. I'm sure there are real ones too, but the ones I always see in the news seem to be older conservative guys doing a bit. Andrew Tate is 39.
I don't know if I call it doing a bit, if somebody keeps women prisoner as rape slaves
That seems like real commitment to the idea to me
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