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  3. The maddening thing about current Gender Discourse is that motherfuckers really will say "There's a male loneliness crisis" while listening to podcasters who tell you to treat all women as objects and all men as rivals.

The maddening thing about current Gender Discourse is that motherfuckers really will say "There's a male loneliness crisis" while listening to podcasters who tell you to treat all women as objects and all men as rivals.

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    @dryak @TheZeldaZone

    all good! 😄

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    • thezeldazone@mastodon.socialT thezeldazone@mastodon.social

      The maddening thing about current Gender Discourse is that motherfuckers really will say "There's a male loneliness crisis" while listening to podcasters who tell you to treat all women as objects and all men as rivals.

      You've just eliminated roughly 100% of the human population from the possibility of being your friend. Of course you're lonely.

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      @TheZeldaZone Which is exactly why the biggest loser billionaires the world has ever seen are now feverishly pursuing AI. They've burned all their human companionship bridges.

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      • thezeldazone@mastodon.socialT thezeldazone@mastodon.social

        The maddening thing about current Gender Discourse is that motherfuckers really will say "There's a male loneliness crisis" while listening to podcasters who tell you to treat all women as objects and all men as rivals.

        You've just eliminated roughly 100% of the human population from the possibility of being your friend. Of course you're lonely.

        jorsh@beige.partyJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @TheZeldaZone

        The only people are happy in this situation are the assholes who are making money off of all them. And those people have a twisted version of "happy".

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        • thezeldazone@mastodon.socialT thezeldazone@mastodon.social

          The maddening thing about current Gender Discourse is that motherfuckers really will say "There's a male loneliness crisis" while listening to podcasters who tell you to treat all women as objects and all men as rivals.

          You've just eliminated roughly 100% of the human population from the possibility of being your friend. Of course you're lonely.

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          @TheZeldaZone @waitworry in the past the male loneliness epidemic was driven by (some) men's closest female person they could talk to being their mother, and then replacing that person with their wives but no other emotional outlet, especially if their wife leaves or passes away

          now they're being told their moms and potential girlfriends all suck too, so they have nobody

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          • thezeldazone@mastodon.socialT thezeldazone@mastodon.social

            The maddening thing about current Gender Discourse is that motherfuckers really will say "There's a male loneliness crisis" while listening to podcasters who tell you to treat all women as objects and all men as rivals.

            You've just eliminated roughly 100% of the human population from the possibility of being your friend. Of course you're lonely.

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            @TheZeldaZone https://infosec.exchange/@JessTheUnstill/116602100969859608

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            • dryak@mstdn.scienceD dryak@mstdn.science

              @zompus @TheZeldaZone "But that would tottaly be gay! (tm)" 🙃

              (I swear, I've heard that stupid argument thrown at me)

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              @dryak @zompus @TheZeldaZone I've seen the idea that eating (a woman's) pussy (as a man) is gay, there's no hope for straight men 😭 like that's one of the most heterosexual activities that exists

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              • thezeldazone@mastodon.socialT thezeldazone@mastodon.social

                The maddening thing about current Gender Discourse is that motherfuckers really will say "There's a male loneliness crisis" while listening to podcasters who tell you to treat all women as objects and all men as rivals.

                You've just eliminated roughly 100% of the human population from the possibility of being your friend. Of course you're lonely.

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                @TheZeldaZone
                I met some of these guys in the wild almost 20 years ago - this stuff isn't new, just more mainstream. Lonely boys and men, especially young ones get sucked in & believe it - it's sad. They're just looking for community and people with similar struggles. Often they have experienced a lot of social rejection as kids.

                I think before this crap was on the internet socially awkward people of all persuasions found each other through nerd interests but now they shut themselves away.

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                • thezeldazone@mastodon.socialT thezeldazone@mastodon.social

                  The maddening thing about current Gender Discourse is that motherfuckers really will say "There's a male loneliness crisis" while listening to podcasters who tell you to treat all women as objects and all men as rivals.

                  You've just eliminated roughly 100% of the human population from the possibility of being your friend. Of course you're lonely.

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                  @TheZeldaZone

                  Boom, needs a crossstitch version.

                  And a version in DEATH METAL fonts, and a cartoon for 12 year olds.

                  This is eloquence and a catch, an obvious fact hidden from.l our eyes by bombast and bullshit. Bombast and bullshit from billionaires couping the world.

                  The cartoon for twelve year olds is rhe most important. You may be able to innoculate an entire generation.

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                  • jorsh@beige.partyJ jorsh@beige.party

                    @TheZeldaZone

                    The only people are happy in this situation are the assholes who are making money off of all them. And those people have a twisted version of "happy".

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                    @Jorsh Oh yeah, I think I could be rich if I had no morals. People are WAY more willing to flock to the worst possible human beings than I imagined, and it's genuinely profitable. Bizarre.

                    We're the Ferengi after all.

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                    • thezeldazone@mastodon.socialT thezeldazone@mastodon.social

                      The maddening thing about current Gender Discourse is that motherfuckers really will say "There's a male loneliness crisis" while listening to podcasters who tell you to treat all women as objects and all men as rivals.

                      You've just eliminated roughly 100% of the human population from the possibility of being your friend. Of course you're lonely.

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                      @TheZeldaZone but like, couldn't the causal arrow just as easily go the other way? there is a market for these podcasts because there is a loneliness epidemic?

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                      • ryszardd@mastodon.socialR ryszardd@mastodon.social

                        @TheZeldaZone these podcasts are the result, not the source of the loneliness.

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                        @RyszardD Ehhh, I doubt most guys like Tate are genuine fallout they're doing it for a bit like Cadence Owens. I'm sure there are real ones too, but the ones I always see in the news seem to be older conservative guys doing a bit. Andrew Tate is 39.

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                        • starkrg@myside-yourside.netS starkrg@myside-yourside.net

                          @dryak @zompus @TheZeldaZone Hold on, someone said that doing stuff with women was gay? They have desperately misunderstood what sexuality is. They probably think it's fishing or football or shooting things with guns you carry around in a rack in your truck.

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                          @StarkRG @dryak @zompus @TheZeldaZone worse, they think that if you’re doing anything with women that isn’t on a trajectory to try to get in their pants, you’re gay

                          And society is wrong for telling them they’re fucking weird for this

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                          • sir_osis_of_liver@beige.partyS sir_osis_of_liver@beige.party

                            @TheZeldaZone

                            As far as I can fathom, it's a social media myth. Any differences between genders are slight either way, or non-existent as far as I've seen. The biggest differences seem to be between age groups, with older people generally being less lonely.

                            "About one-in-six Americans (16%) say they feel lonely or isolated from those around them all or most of the time – including roughly equal shares of men and women. About four-in-ten adults (38%) say they sometimes feel lonely, and 47% say they hardly ever or never do.

                            While experiences with loneliness don’t differ much by gender, they do differ significantly by age.

                            Adults younger than 50 are much more likely than those ages 50 and older to say they often feel lonely (22% vs. 9%). Across age groups, adults 65 and older are the most likely to say they hardly ever or never feel this way (66%)."

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                            (www.pewresearch.org)

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                            @Sir_Osis_of_Liver @TheZeldaZone

                            I don’t think loneliness in the US is a social media myth.
                            Kids and young adults are looking for companionship in AI! for example.
                            US society is individualistic, tribalistic, and exclusionary, and technology has made it worse.
                            Kids, for example, learn how to interact with others by playing, but there is much less playing time these days with schedules full of activities.
                            And the job environment is not better, full of surface interactions only.

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                            • thezeldazone@mastodon.socialT thezeldazone@mastodon.social

                              @RyszardD Ehhh, I doubt most guys like Tate are genuine fallout they're doing it for a bit like Cadence Owens. I'm sure there are real ones too, but the ones I always see in the news seem to be older conservative guys doing a bit. Andrew Tate is 39.

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                              @TheZeldaZone @RyszardD

                              Fuck those assholes,
                              making money by selling machismo and bigotry to young vulnerable kids.

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                              • ziggythehamster@ruby.socialZ ziggythehamster@ruby.social

                                @StarkRG @dryak @zompus @TheZeldaZone worse, they think that if you’re doing anything with women that isn’t on a trajectory to try to get in their pants, you’re gay

                                And society is wrong for telling them they’re fucking weird for this

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                                @StarkRG @dryak @zompus @TheZeldaZone also I’m going to have to channel my inner bbno$ and insist all straight men try getting fucked at least once and preferably twice, even though they’re going to say “but that’s gay”

                                They’re missing out. I regretfully didn’t learn this until like a year ago.

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                                • bit@ohai.socialB bit@ohai.social

                                  @TheZeldaZone The formula that explains all of this is simple. Ads work better on gullible people. One finds gullible people by creating content that normal people reject, but gullible people don't. Serve ads on that content & profit. This toxic masculinity content, that for normal people is easy to see is nonsense, is just one of the many types specifically crafted to appeal to a critical thinking deficient audience that will click ads. This is the mainstream internet now.

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                                  @bit @TheZeldaZone

                                  That’s how you build a religion, a political party, a fascist movement, an army…

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                                  • thezeldazone@mastodon.socialT thezeldazone@mastodon.social

                                    The maddening thing about current Gender Discourse is that motherfuckers really will say "There's a male loneliness crisis" while listening to podcasters who tell you to treat all women as objects and all men as rivals.

                                    You've just eliminated roughly 100% of the human population from the possibility of being your friend. Of course you're lonely.

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                                    @TheZeldaZone Maybe the number of misogynists, who have typically been friends of other misogynists, is decreasing, and that is causing the loneliness among the traditional male population. Maybe maleness is changing. (Could be good)

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                                    • joshbuddy@sfba.socialJ joshbuddy@sfba.social

                                      @TheZeldaZone but like, couldn't the causal arrow just as easily go the other way? there is a market for these podcasts because there is a loneliness epidemic?

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                                      @joshbuddy @TheZeldaZone Funny, I've been lonely at points in my life but it's never turned me into a raging loser misogynist.

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                                      • thezeldazone@mastodon.socialT thezeldazone@mastodon.social

                                        @RyszardD Ehhh, I doubt most guys like Tate are genuine fallout they're doing it for a bit like Cadence Owens. I'm sure there are real ones too, but the ones I always see in the news seem to be older conservative guys doing a bit. Andrew Tate is 39.

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                                        @TheZeldaZone I don't understand.
                                        what I mean is that lonely men search for solutions to their problems and fall for grifters like Tate. Not the other way around.

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                                        • shaulaevans@zirk.usS shaulaevans@zirk.us

                                          @joshbuddy @TheZeldaZone Funny, I've been lonely at points in my life but it's never turned me into a raging loser misogynist.

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                                          @ShaulaEvans @TheZeldaZone well sure, but being lonely might make your more susceptible for that kind of "programming". cults, as an example, prey on the lonely. the misogyny peeps kind of seem like a cult to me i guess, so that's where i was coming from

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