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  • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

    nwengrov@tooot.imN This user is from outside of this forum
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    #98

    @sarae I click like/favouriote on anything that made my day brighter or that I find useful. If I think it may brighten the day or be useful for others in my feed, I also boost it. I like the idea that I can express my feelings about what I read in my feed with just a click, without worrying about whether I'm training some algorithm etc.

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    • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

      seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

      folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

      it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

      sven222@soc.hardwarepunk.deS This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #99
      @sarae Full ACK. If I see somebody posting something lovely I will favorite it. Some Artwork for example. If the artists has to sell it, to make his or her living, I will boost it. Also I'm happy, if somebody just likes what I'm posting. It tells me, that somebody is reading my output. So just hit the favorite button if you like something, the author will see it and thats good.
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      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

        seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

        folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

        it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

        qrreia@meow.socialQ This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #100

        @sarae Wild if that's much of a discussion. I would have expected less of a "pragmatism and productivity only" from folks on here.

        Then again, I suppose with how much people are broadly trained to always be promoting themselves on platforms, I shouldn't be all that surprised. Particularly given the size of the "empathy is bad, actually," crowd.

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        • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

          dio9sys@haunted.computerD This user is from outside of this forum
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          dio9sys@haunted.computer
          wrote last edited by
          #101

          @sarae If i like something, I fav it. If I need to read it later, I bookmark it. It's so weird the lengths people will go to try and recreate some kind of algorithmic magic on a network that's defined by its lack of black box algorithms

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          • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

            seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

            folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

            it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

            oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
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            oldclumsy_nowmad@mastodon.social
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            #102

            @sarae

            Thanks for 'speaking' out in favor of kindness and friendly feedback to others on social media. And against imposing limits on what 'favorite' means. It means different things, in different circumstances, as you and those in the thread have said. And it always means "I saw your message", which is enough to justify it.

            Sometimes I even 'favorite' a post which describes something I detest (crimes, dirty trickery, rotten behavior, etc.), if I appreciate being informed about it.

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            • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

              seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

              folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

              it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

              tykayn@mastodon.cipherbliss.comT This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #103

              @sarae fav to this!

              however i saw some studies that show that faving decreases the dialogue between people, which turns to more isolation, which is not the most we expect from social medias

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              • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                foobarsoft@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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                foobarsoft@mastodon.social
                wrote last edited by
                #104

                @sarae Feels a bit like this may tell you something about the people who say that. That they don’t see value unless it’s something that expands someone’s reach. A bit of the “influencer” mindset.

                What’s wrong with just saying “I like this!”?

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                • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                  seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                  folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                  it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                  steggy@sunny.gardenS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #105

                  @sarae I can just about muster a Gen X “whatever” to this. I will continue to favorite posts, and probably do it even more now I know that it annoys the self-appointed Mastodon HOA board. 😊

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                  • earlytwix@sueden.socialE earlytwix@sueden.social

                    @sarae an not every post I write is meant to be distributed. Some posts are just for fun - or because I know my followers are interested in - but not the whole world

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                    elleninedmonton@mstdn.ca
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                    #106

                    @EarlyTwix @sarae
                    I find it somewhat jarring when a follower boosts my post without any interaction, especially if it's part of a discussion thread.
                    Also, I never follow anyone whose entire feed is just boosts. I want to read original content, not something that's recycled, unless it's really critical information that I might have otherwise missed.

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                    • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                      @lalah that really confused me as well

                      commenting doesn't increase post visibility in this system, and yeah...unless I have something to say I should keep my mouth shut

                      hell a lot of the time when I have something to say I should DEFINITELY keep my mouth shut, lol

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                      #107

                      @sarae @lalah

                      Commenting does *decrease* post conversation visibility, though. The worse the noise-to-signal ratio, the earlier people give up reading a thread

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                      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                        seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                        folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                        it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                        tanekrune@mstdn.caT This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #108

                        @sarae
                        I just like sometimes because my brain is broken and so I can remember if I've already read something or if I'm stuck in a loop.

                        So good luck getting me to stop.

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                        • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                          chrisjagged@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          chrisjagged@mastodon.social
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                          #109

                          @sarae

                          "Don't like, only boost" is just someone saying "I don't care about YOUR Fedi experience, what can you do for ME?"

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                          • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                            seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                            folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                            it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                            rozeboosje@masto.aiR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            rozeboosje@masto.ai
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                            #110

                            @sarae I would say it depends on what the toot is. If you think "I want other people to see this, too" I would suggest you "boost", and if you think "this speaks to me but it's not necessarily something that the entire world needs to see" you can "favourite". In any case, I most often do both.

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                            • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                              seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                              folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                              it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                              ninafelwitch@tech.lgbtN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              ninafelwitch@tech.lgbt
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                              #111

                              @sarae
                              Excuse me, what the fuck?

                              Why wouldn't I favorite a post that I like? It shows the person who posted it that I like it.

                              And it shows up in my favorites list.
                              Clicking the 'fav' button has zero downsides. Why would anyone discourage its usage?

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                              • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                                taylor@social.axfive.netT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #112

                                @sarae I see it largely as the Fedi equivalent of nodding as you pass somebody on the street. We are both humans and I acknowledge your existence in a more-positive-than-neutral way.

                                I don't see the problem. It's not some great kindness, but it's doesn't hurt either. Reminds me of the Nirvana fallacy, though it doesn't fit exactly. Doing something mildly nice is seen as a bad thing, even though it's better than nothing, because it's not as good as it could have been.

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                                • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                  seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                  folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                  it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                                  thattagen@mastodon.artT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #113

                                  @sarae I often see the same attitude on Tumblr: "Oh you can just do your own thing, we don't interact with posts here."

                                  Sounds good on paper and maybe even a little positive until you realize you desperately want a sign that your audience is out there and that you are seen.

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                                  • taylor@social.axfive.netT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #114

                                    @kichae @sarae I might be wrong, but I vaguely remember some Fedi software having the option to prune old remote posts from the database, and it retains favorited, replied-to, and boosted posts.

                                    I wish GoToSocial would do that.

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                                    • taylor@social.axfive.netT taylor@social.axfive.net

                                      @kichae @sarae I might be wrong, but I vaguely remember some Fedi software having the option to prune old remote posts from the database, and it retains favorited, replied-to, and boosted posts.

                                      I wish GoToSocial would do that.

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                                      #115

                                      taylor
                                      Misskey and its spinoffs work that way, IIRC.

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                                      • foobarsoft@mastodon.socialF foobarsoft@mastodon.social

                                        @sarae Feels a bit like this may tell you something about the people who say that. That they don’t see value unless it’s something that expands someone’s reach. A bit of the “influencer” mindset.

                                        What’s wrong with just saying “I like this!”?

                                        wordsmith@writing.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wordsmith@writing.exchange
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                                        #116

                                        @foobarsoft I appreciate the irony of boosting this and to make up for it I've bookmarked it. In six months I'll be looking for something I bookmarked, stumble on your post, and agree with it all over again.

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                                        • tykayn@mastodon.cipherbliss.comT tykayn@mastodon.cipherbliss.com

                                          @sarae fav to this!

                                          however i saw some studies that show that faving decreases the dialogue between people, which turns to more isolation, which is not the most we expect from social medias

                                          wordsmith@writing.exchangeW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          wordsmith@writing.exchange
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                                          #117

                                          @tykayn when I get a favourite it's an excuse to nose around a stranger's posts and bio, or reminds me to catch up on a follower's posts I might have missed. Favs can lead to serendipity!

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