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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

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  • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

    @colo_lee @GPJohnston lol I get up every day and try to remind myself about that

    and sometimes it really is that way but daaaamn also people are people an upsetting amount of the time 😆

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    #92

    @sarae @colo_lee @GPJohnston it is very nice to assume someone just wants to share newfound knowledge.

    maybe it is worded as "advice" because this a style of conversation people are used to.

    you can also word it as "something I learned" and hope that others find useful so I am sharing it.

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    • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

      seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

      folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

      it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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      #93

      @sarae an not every post I write is meant to be distributed. Some posts are just for fun - or because I know my followers are interested in - but not the whole world

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      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

        seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

        folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

        it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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        #94

        @sarae

        I favorite posts a LOT.

        And that favorite could be an internet hug, an encouragement, a genuine like - basically a sign of interaction and possibly kindness.

        We all need more kindness in life.

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        • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

          @GPJohnston @moss @awawawa yep exactly this

          "hang in there buddy times are tough but I am on Team You and hoping for the best"

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          #95

          @sarae @GPJohnston @moss @awawawa

          Sometimes e.g. in the actuallyAutistic group, people post kind of personal things, and even if they didn’t set it to followers only, I sometimes feel it should perhaps stay in the group. Then I just favour it, rather than boost.

          Also, I have a pinned post about this very topic 😊

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          • kimapr@ublog.kimapr.netK kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net

            @sarae@ecoevo.social

            it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

            the funny thing about this: on the Pleroma/Misskey side of the network, favorites distribute posts across servers the same way boosts or replies do, they just don't push the posts directly to followers' Home Timelines --- so they do increase distribution, but in a less obvious way (it's more obvious on smaller servers like mine where any interaction could facilitate federation that would otherwise would not happen).

            it doesn't really work that exact way on Mastodon though from what i've seen, as Mastodon doesn't seem to federate favorites at all except to the post author.

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            #96

            @kimapr @sarae

            wow, that’s interesting, thank you! I didn’t know that!

            (Mastodon user here)

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            • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

              seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

              folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

              it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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              #97

              @sarae I'm baffled. I remember discoursr on Twitter where people were displeased with faving pushing tweets into other peoples timelines, because they would have used retweets for that.

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              • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                #98

                @sarae I click like/favouriote on anything that made my day brighter or that I find useful. If I think it may brighten the day or be useful for others in my feed, I also boost it. I like the idea that I can express my feelings about what I read in my feed with just a click, without worrying about whether I'm training some algorithm etc.

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                • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                  seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                  folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                  it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                  @sarae Full ACK. If I see somebody posting something lovely I will favorite it. Some Artwork for example. If the artists has to sell it, to make his or her living, I will boost it. Also I'm happy, if somebody just likes what I'm posting. It tells me, that somebody is reading my output. So just hit the favorite button if you like something, the author will see it and thats good.
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                  • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                    #100

                    @sarae Wild if that's much of a discussion. I would have expected less of a "pragmatism and productivity only" from folks on here.

                    Then again, I suppose with how much people are broadly trained to always be promoting themselves on platforms, I shouldn't be all that surprised. Particularly given the size of the "empathy is bad, actually," crowd.

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                    • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                      seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                      folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                      it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                      #101

                      @sarae If i like something, I fav it. If I need to read it later, I bookmark it. It's so weird the lengths people will go to try and recreate some kind of algorithmic magic on a network that's defined by its lack of black box algorithms

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                      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                        seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                        folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                        it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                        #102

                        @sarae

                        Thanks for 'speaking' out in favor of kindness and friendly feedback to others on social media. And against imposing limits on what 'favorite' means. It means different things, in different circumstances, as you and those in the thread have said. And it always means "I saw your message", which is enough to justify it.

                        Sometimes I even 'favorite' a post which describes something I detest (crimes, dirty trickery, rotten behavior, etc.), if I appreciate being informed about it.

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                        • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                          #103

                          @sarae fav to this!

                          however i saw some studies that show that faving decreases the dialogue between people, which turns to more isolation, which is not the most we expect from social medias

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                          • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                            seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                            folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                            it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                            #104

                            @sarae Feels a bit like this may tell you something about the people who say that. That they don’t see value unless it’s something that expands someone’s reach. A bit of the “influencer” mindset.

                            What’s wrong with just saying “I like this!”?

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                            • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                              seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                              folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                              it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                              #105

                              @sarae I can just about muster a Gen X “whatever” to this. I will continue to favorite posts, and probably do it even more now I know that it annoys the self-appointed Mastodon HOA board. 😊

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                              • earlytwix@sueden.socialE earlytwix@sueden.social

                                @sarae an not every post I write is meant to be distributed. Some posts are just for fun - or because I know my followers are interested in - but not the whole world

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                                @EarlyTwix @sarae
                                I find it somewhat jarring when a follower boosts my post without any interaction, especially if it's part of a discussion thread.
                                Also, I never follow anyone whose entire feed is just boosts. I want to read original content, not something that's recycled, unless it's really critical information that I might have otherwise missed.

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                                • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                  @lalah that really confused me as well

                                  commenting doesn't increase post visibility in this system, and yeah...unless I have something to say I should keep my mouth shut

                                  hell a lot of the time when I have something to say I should DEFINITELY keep my mouth shut, lol

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                                  @sarae @lalah

                                  Commenting does *decrease* post conversation visibility, though. The worse the noise-to-signal ratio, the earlier people give up reading a thread

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                                  • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                                    @sarae
                                    I just like sometimes because my brain is broken and so I can remember if I've already read something or if I'm stuck in a loop.

                                    So good luck getting me to stop.

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                                    • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                      seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                      folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                      it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                                      @sarae

                                      "Don't like, only boost" is just someone saying "I don't care about YOUR Fedi experience, what can you do for ME?"

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                                      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                        seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                        folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                        it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                                        @sarae I would say it depends on what the toot is. If you think "I want other people to see this, too" I would suggest you "boost", and if you think "this speaks to me but it's not necessarily something that the entire world needs to see" you can "favourite". In any case, I most often do both.

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                                        • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                                          #111

                                          @sarae
                                          Excuse me, what the fuck?

                                          Why wouldn't I favorite a post that I like? It shows the person who posted it that I like it.

                                          And it shows up in my favorites list.
                                          Clicking the 'fav' button has zero downsides. Why would anyone discourage its usage?

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