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  • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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    @sarae

    I'm a big fan of making my own rules. That's why I graduated childhood.

    🤡

    Starring = I like! (1/1 stars!)
    Boosting = I want everyone to see this.

    Do what you mean. Don't let the bastards grind you down.

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    • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

      @sarae literally who says this

      I've never seen anyone make this recommendation

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      @schratze I'm glad to hear this hasn't been part of your experience, since I think it's a fairly unhealthy way to approach online interactions

      not as unhealthy as rocking up in a total stranger's replies and attacking their credibility

      but pretty unhealthy, nonetheless!

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      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

        @schratze I'm glad to hear this hasn't been part of your experience, since I think it's a fairly unhealthy way to approach online interactions

        not as unhealthy as rocking up in a total stranger's replies and attacking their credibility

        but pretty unhealthy, nonetheless!

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        @sarae I did not intend to doubt your credibility. I apologize for that.

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        • colo_lee@mstdn.socialC colo_lee@mstdn.social

          @sarae @GPJohnston It's also policing behavior, telling other people how they should be behaving. I don't like it. Not one bit ...

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          @colo_lee @GPJohnston I think people are often coming from a place of believing that others genuinely don't understand how things work, because they recently didn't understand themself

          but in this case I'm like, you are correct that the tool doesn't do the thing a similarly-named tool did elsewhere

          that is because you are now in a space designed by people who found that tool's behavior elsewhere fairly upsetting

          (I notice the same thing about QGIS vs Esri products, in my work life)

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          • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

            seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

            folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

            it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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            @sarae

            I'll usually favourite stuff to encourage people for things I don't want to actually post on my profile.

            You created your first 3D chair in Blender? Fav. You did some pixel art I don't like but you're proud of your progress? Fav. You posted some political comment under a post with tons of replies? Fav.

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            • schratze@todon.nlS schratze@todon.nl

              @sarae I did not intend to doubt your credibility. I apologize for that.

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              @schratze thank you

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              • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                @colo_lee @GPJohnston I think people are often coming from a place of believing that others genuinely don't understand how things work, because they recently didn't understand themself

                but in this case I'm like, you are correct that the tool doesn't do the thing a similarly-named tool did elsewhere

                that is because you are now in a space designed by people who found that tool's behavior elsewhere fairly upsetting

                (I notice the same thing about QGIS vs Esri products, in my work life)

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                @sarae @GPJohnston that is a generous read of the situation in your first sentence. I'll try to follow your example and share the assumption of good will ...

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                • beldarak@mastodon.gamedev.placeB beldarak@mastodon.gamedev.place

                  @sarae

                  I'll usually favourite stuff to encourage people for things I don't want to actually post on my profile.

                  You created your first 3D chair in Blender? Fav. You did some pixel art I don't like but you're proud of your progress? Fav. You posted some political comment under a post with tons of replies? Fav.

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                  #31

                  @Beldarak yeah, while I certainly recirculate some political stuff, on that esp I try to pace myself, because it can turn into such a barrage and I don't want to be like "here's a list of 47 horrible things I saw today" without chucking in some pictures of the cats or vegetables or a sunrise or whatever

                  it's easy to get pulled into that and I definitely do sometimes

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                  • mycrowgirl@flipping.rocksM mycrowgirl@flipping.rocks

                    @moss yeah, I definitely use it as a boop of friendly acknowledgement too. @sarae @awawawa

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                    @mycrowgirl @moss @sarae @awawawa I use it the same. Sometimes I don't have the spoons to reply to someone having a difficult time. I want them to know they aren't alone.

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                    • colo_lee@mstdn.socialC colo_lee@mstdn.social

                      @sarae @GPJohnston that is a generous read of the situation in your first sentence. I'll try to follow your example and share the assumption of good will ...

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                      @colo_lee @GPJohnston lol I get up every day and try to remind myself about that

                      and sometimes it really is that way but daaaamn also people are people an upsetting amount of the time 😆

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                      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                        seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                        folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                        it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                        @sarae 👍💯👍

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                        • kimapr@ublog.kimapr.netK kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net

                          @sarae@ecoevo.social

                          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

                          the funny thing about this: on the Pleroma/Misskey side of the network, favorites distribute posts across servers the same way boosts or replies do, they just don't push the posts directly to followers' Home Timelines --- so they do increase distribution, but in a less obvious way (it's more obvious on smaller servers like mine where any interaction could facilitate federation that would otherwise would not happen).

                          it doesn't really work that exact way on Mastodon though from what i've seen, as Mastodon doesn't seem to federate favorites at all except to the post author.

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                          @kimapr oh interesting!

                          and I think that for those of us who read "trending" on a Mastodon server (which I do sometimes if I've been afk all day and want to catch up on the "big ideas") favorites do influence visibility, but yeah, it's in a diffuse rather than a direct way

                          (and see I boosted this because it's new-to-me information, lol)

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                          • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                            @Beldarak yeah, while I certainly recirculate some political stuff, on that esp I try to pace myself, because it can turn into such a barrage and I don't want to be like "here's a list of 47 horrible things I saw today" without chucking in some pictures of the cats or vegetables or a sunrise or whatever

                            it's easy to get pulled into that and I definitely do sometimes

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                            @sarae

                            Yeah, the no algorithm thing means you can be super annoying to your followers if you boost too much in one shot, you're right 🙂

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                            • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                              seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                              folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                              it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                              @sarae I see it as a way to tell the OP that I liked or otherwise appreciated the post, especially when I don't have a substantial reply to share!

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                              • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                                @sarae I agree on almost every point except one: it *does* affect distribution, albeit in a small way, because faves are counted for the trending posts lists.

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                                • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                  seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                  folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                  it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                                  @sarae
                                  Thank you to all that was said before.
                                  same here.

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                                  • beldarak@mastodon.gamedev.placeB beldarak@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                    @sarae

                                    Yeah, the no algorithm thing means you can be super annoying to your followers if you boost too much in one shot, you're right 🙂

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                                    @Beldarak there are some people who I def like talking with but most of their feeds are stuff I find sometimes-really-upsetting and need to pace myself on

                                    it's nothing personal and it's not like they're "doing it wrong" they're just doing it in a way that doesn't always work for me personally

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                                    • maxleibman@beige.partyM maxleibman@beige.party

                                      @sarae I agree on almost every point except one: it *does* affect distribution, albeit in a small way, because faves are counted for the trending posts lists.

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                                      @maxleibman yeah, we were having some conversation about that elsethread and I think you're entirely right

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                                      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                        @maxleibman yeah, we were having some conversation about that elsethread and I think you're entirely right

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                                        @sarae Appreciate you spreading the good word, either way.

                                        As I once put it: saying “faves don’t do anything” is like saying “please and thank you don’t do anything.”

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                                        • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                          @maxleibman yeah, we were having some conversation about that elsethread and I think you're entirely right

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                                          @sarae @maxleibman I am probably weird but I don't look at those

                                          but you're still right because if other people do then they might boost because they saw it .. at which point someone weird like me sees it anyway

                                          and probably boosts it 😅

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