seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
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@Recalcitrant I think that can be turned off, or at least I remember untoggling something lime that
@leguinian_utopia hmmmmmm I’ll look into it
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@sarae @awawawa yes! I sometimes read as +support +love +you’re seen
in disability communities I feel especially it never vibes “they LIKE that I’m having a brutal week,” it’s “they saw I’m having a brutal week & sent me a boop to know I’m not alone”
I think it’s v weird when I see discourse and ppl are adamant it only means “I like this”. Have your friends not been suffering & do you not boop support?
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae Sounds like the old "gaming the algorithm" mind set. Luckily, on Mastodon, things that are worth spreading, are spread, whether you fav it, or not.
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae total agreement.
maximizing-reach culture is toxic. It's a very good thing to leave behind here in the fediverse.
Being kind and recognizing each other is good. And it's the kind of lovely action we should be encouraging...
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@sarae oh no, not this nonsense again... I remember last time they were saying, "never fav or boost, only leave comments!" as if there aren't enough reply guys already!
actual discussion is good of course, but commenting for the sake of commenting... why?
@lalah that really confused me as well
commenting doesn't increase post visibility in this system, and yeah...unless I have something to say I should keep my mouth shut
hell a lot of the time when I have something to say I should DEFINITELY keep my mouth shut, lol
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae literally who says this
I've never seen anyone make this recommendation
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@sarae I’ve not seen the nega-fav posts, what they got against favoriting?
@GPJohnston it doesn't feed an algo so that's a problem, I guess? idk it's a mindset that doesn't fit well with how I use the system
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@sarae @awawawa yes! I sometimes read as +support +love +you’re seen
in disability communities I feel especially it never vibes “they LIKE that I’m having a brutal week,” it’s “they saw I’m having a brutal week & sent me a boop to know I’m not alone”
I think it’s v weird when I see discourse and ppl are adamant it only means “I like this”. Have your friends not been suffering & do you not boop support?
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@GPJohnston @moss @awawawa yep exactly this
"hang in there buddy times are tough but I am on Team You and hoping for the best"
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
the funny thing about this: on the Pleroma/Misskey side of the network, favorites distribute posts across servers the same way boosts or replies do, they just don't push the posts directly to followers' Home Timelines --- so they do increase distribution, but in a less obvious way (it's more obvious on smaller servers like mine where any interaction could facilitate federation that would otherwise would not happen).
it doesn't really work that exact way on Mastodon though from what i've seen, as Mastodon doesn't seem to federate favorites at all except to the post author.
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@GPJohnston it doesn't feed an algo so that's a problem, I guess? idk it's a mindset that doesn't fit well with how I use the system
@sarae @GPJohnston It's also policing behavior, telling other people how they should be behaving. I don't like it. Not one bit ...
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
@sarae l have always thought it was like giving a friendly wave to someone on the street to let them know I have seen them even if I am not going to stop to chat right now.
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
I'm a big fan of making my own rules. That's why I graduated childhood.
Starring = I like! (1/1 stars!)
Boosting = I want everyone to see this.Do what you mean. Don't let the bastards grind you down.
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@sarae literally who says this
I've never seen anyone make this recommendation
@schratze I'm glad to hear this hasn't been part of your experience, since I think it's a fairly unhealthy way to approach online interactions
not as unhealthy as rocking up in a total stranger's replies and attacking their credibility
but pretty unhealthy, nonetheless!
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@schratze I'm glad to hear this hasn't been part of your experience, since I think it's a fairly unhealthy way to approach online interactions
not as unhealthy as rocking up in a total stranger's replies and attacking their credibility
but pretty unhealthy, nonetheless!
@sarae I did not intend to doubt your credibility. I apologize for that.
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@sarae @GPJohnston It's also policing behavior, telling other people how they should be behaving. I don't like it. Not one bit ...
@colo_lee @GPJohnston I think people are often coming from a place of believing that others genuinely don't understand how things work, because they recently didn't understand themself
but in this case I'm like, you are correct that the tool doesn't do the thing a similarly-named tool did elsewhere
that is because you are now in a space designed by people who found that tool's behavior elsewhere fairly upsetting
(I notice the same thing about QGIS vs Esri products, in my work life)
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seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"
folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself
it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird
I'll usually favourite stuff to encourage people for things I don't want to actually post on my profile.
You created your first 3D chair in Blender? Fav. You did some pixel art I don't like but you're proud of your progress? Fav. You posted some political comment under a post with tons of replies? Fav.
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@sarae I did not intend to doubt your credibility. I apologize for that.
@schratze thank you
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@colo_lee @GPJohnston I think people are often coming from a place of believing that others genuinely don't understand how things work, because they recently didn't understand themself
but in this case I'm like, you are correct that the tool doesn't do the thing a similarly-named tool did elsewhere
that is because you are now in a space designed by people who found that tool's behavior elsewhere fairly upsetting
(I notice the same thing about QGIS vs Esri products, in my work life)
@sarae @GPJohnston that is a generous read of the situation in your first sentence. I'll try to follow your example and share the assumption of good will ...
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I'll usually favourite stuff to encourage people for things I don't want to actually post on my profile.
You created your first 3D chair in Blender? Fav. You did some pixel art I don't like but you're proud of your progress? Fav. You posted some political comment under a post with tons of replies? Fav.
@Beldarak yeah, while I certainly recirculate some political stuff, on that esp I try to pace myself, because it can turn into such a barrage and I don't want to be like "here's a list of 47 horrible things I saw today" without chucking in some pictures of the cats or vegetables or a sunrise or whatever
it's easy to get pulled into that and I definitely do sometimes
