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  • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

    steggy@sunny.gardenS This user is from outside of this forum
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    steggy@sunny.garden
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    #105

    @sarae I can just about muster a Gen X “whatever” to this. I will continue to favorite posts, and probably do it even more now I know that it annoys the self-appointed Mastodon HOA board. 😊

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    • earlytwix@sueden.socialE earlytwix@sueden.social

      @sarae an not every post I write is meant to be distributed. Some posts are just for fun - or because I know my followers are interested in - but not the whole world

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      elleninedmonton@mstdn.ca
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      #106

      @EarlyTwix @sarae
      I find it somewhat jarring when a follower boosts my post without any interaction, especially if it's part of a discussion thread.
      Also, I never follow anyone whose entire feed is just boosts. I want to read original content, not something that's recycled, unless it's really critical information that I might have otherwise missed.

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      • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

        @lalah that really confused me as well

        commenting doesn't increase post visibility in this system, and yeah...unless I have something to say I should keep my mouth shut

        hell a lot of the time when I have something to say I should DEFINITELY keep my mouth shut, lol

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        #107

        @sarae @lalah

        Commenting does *decrease* post conversation visibility, though. The worse the noise-to-signal ratio, the earlier people give up reading a thread

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        • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

          seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

          folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

          it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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          #108

          @sarae
          I just like sometimes because my brain is broken and so I can remember if I've already read something or if I'm stuck in a loop.

          So good luck getting me to stop.

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          • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

            seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

            folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

            it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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            #109

            @sarae

            "Don't like, only boost" is just someone saying "I don't care about YOUR Fedi experience, what can you do for ME?"

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            • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

              seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

              folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

              it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

              rozeboosje@masto.aiR This user is from outside of this forum
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              rozeboosje@masto.ai
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              #110

              @sarae I would say it depends on what the toot is. If you think "I want other people to see this, too" I would suggest you "boost", and if you think "this speaks to me but it's not necessarily something that the entire world needs to see" you can "favourite". In any case, I most often do both.

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              • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                #111

                @sarae
                Excuse me, what the fuck?

                Why wouldn't I favorite a post that I like? It shows the person who posted it that I like it.

                And it shows up in my favorites list.
                Clicking the 'fav' button has zero downsides. Why would anyone discourage its usage?

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                • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                  seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                  folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                  it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                  #112

                  @sarae I see it largely as the Fedi equivalent of nodding as you pass somebody on the street. We are both humans and I acknowledge your existence in a more-positive-than-neutral way.

                  I don't see the problem. It's not some great kindness, but it's doesn't hurt either. Reminds me of the Nirvana fallacy, though it doesn't fit exactly. Doing something mildly nice is seen as a bad thing, even though it's better than nothing, because it's not as good as it could have been.

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                  • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                    thattagen@mastodon.art
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                    #113

                    @sarae I often see the same attitude on Tumblr: "Oh you can just do your own thing, we don't interact with posts here."

                    Sounds good on paper and maybe even a little positive until you realize you desperately want a sign that your audience is out there and that you are seen.

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                      taylor@social.axfive.net
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                      #114

                      @kichae @sarae I might be wrong, but I vaguely remember some Fedi software having the option to prune old remote posts from the database, and it retains favorited, replied-to, and boosted posts.

                      I wish GoToSocial would do that.

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                      • taylor@social.axfive.netT taylor@social.axfive.net

                        @kichae @sarae I might be wrong, but I vaguely remember some Fedi software having the option to prune old remote posts from the database, and it retains favorited, replied-to, and boosted posts.

                        I wish GoToSocial would do that.

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                        #115

                        taylor
                        Misskey and its spinoffs work that way, IIRC.

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                        • foobarsoft@mastodon.socialF foobarsoft@mastodon.social

                          @sarae Feels a bit like this may tell you something about the people who say that. That they don’t see value unless it’s something that expands someone’s reach. A bit of the “influencer” mindset.

                          What’s wrong with just saying “I like this!”?

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                          #116

                          @foobarsoft I appreciate the irony of boosting this and to make up for it I've bookmarked it. In six months I'll be looking for something I bookmarked, stumble on your post, and agree with it all over again.

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                          • tykayn@mastodon.cipherbliss.comT tykayn@mastodon.cipherbliss.com

                            @sarae fav to this!

                            however i saw some studies that show that faving decreases the dialogue between people, which turns to more isolation, which is not the most we expect from social medias

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                            #117

                            @tykayn when I get a favourite it's an excuse to nose around a stranger's posts and bio, or reminds me to catch up on a follower's posts I might have missed. Favs can lead to serendipity!

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                            • gloriouscow@oldbytes.spaceG gloriouscow@oldbytes.space

                              @sarae this is fun to see because when I first joined fedi i saw things like "If all you do is boost things i will unfollow you"

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                              #118

                              @gloriouscow @sarae I think the idea is you should try to participate in the conversation with some original posts, too. But that really assumes some things about how other people work. Some people are only here to lurk and curate and I have found a lot of people that way.

                              Would much rather have someone whose feed is 100% boosts than any proportion of chronic complaining.

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                              • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                                #119

                                @sarae I appreciate getting "favorite" notifications, even if it doesn't mean the post gets any further.

                                I think of favorite as "I appreciate seeing this" and boost as "more people should see this".

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                                • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                  seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                  folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                  it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                                  a@pdx.social
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                                  #120

                                  @sarae @Flux “But there’s no algorithm to game!” Who cares? I don’t laugh for the algorithm. I’m not giving someone a high five to increase distribution. What a weird idea.

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                                  • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                    seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                    folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                    it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                                    nicksworld@mastodon.stickbear.me
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                                    #121

                                    @IrrationalMethod @sarae Favoriting people's posts is fun!

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                                    • sarae@ecoevo.socialS sarae@ecoevo.social

                                      seeing another round of "don't favorite posts on fedi"

                                      folks it is a kind and lovely thing to favorite someone's post and anyone who tells you not to be kind and lovely has told you something about themself

                                      it's true that it doesn't particulary increase the distribution of your post but the idea that we're all here to get things distributed as far as possible is pretty weird

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                                      adaraastin@supervolcano.angryshark.eu
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                                      #122

                                      @sarae The overall kindness and loveliness on fedi is one of my favourite things about being here.

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                                      • foobarsoft@mastodon.socialF foobarsoft@mastodon.social

                                        @sarae Feels a bit like this may tell you something about the people who say that. That they don’t see value unless it’s something that expands someone’s reach. A bit of the “influencer” mindset.

                                        What’s wrong with just saying “I like this!”?

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                                        #123

                                        @foobarsoft @sarae I had to re-read to understand what the attitude even meant. I'm new here after having spent some time on an algorithm-driven platform, and it's here that "liking" a post started to make sense.

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                                        • iwritelike@mastodon.socialI iwritelike@mastodon.social

                                          @foobarsoft @sarae I had to re-read to understand what the attitude even meant. I'm new here after having spent some time on an algorithm-driven platform, and it's here that "liking" a post started to make sense.

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                                          eltheanine@the.teabag.ninja
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                                          #124
                                          quite right. If everyone boosted everything they "liked" I would be swamped in noise and just give up. People curating the thigns the reshare is helpful; I often boost a single post from a thread, but like several others. Sometimes I just like the post, because I genuinely like the post - but don;t neccessarily thing I need to share that thing with everyone that follows me.

                                          I often find new folks to follow from seeing other replies in my feed from and going to the thread - a singular boost give zero context, whereas seeing that reply frmo someone I already follow means they found reason to engage with this other person, so I check them out.

                                          CC: @foobarsoft@mastodon.social @sarae@ecoevo.social
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