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  3. The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.

The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.

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  • slothrop@chaos.socialS slothrop@chaos.social

    Y’know @neil one of these days you’re going to wake up and find you’ve become a revolutionary anarchist, relatively speaking.

    Same here. My opinions remain fairly constant, but the Overton Window almost keeps rushing past.

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    @slothrop @neil
    You know, I'm in my fifties. And over the past 40 years I've gone from a liberal centrist to a socialist radical, without changing my opinions.

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    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

      The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.

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      @neil I think we've already gone that way with cars. It's difficult (impossible?) to buy one now that just belongs to you with mno ties to the manufacturer or seller.
      Yet we all accept it.

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      • mikecox@mastodon.iow.socialM mikecox@mastodon.iow.social

        @neil I think we've already gone that way with cars. It's difficult (impossible?) to buy one now that just belongs to you with mno ties to the manufacturer or seller.
        Yet we all accept it.

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        @mikecox This is indeed one of the reasons why I am struggling to replace my car at the moment, because I don't want to accept that.

        I might not get what I want.

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          @thinkb4u @Em0nM4stodon

          The fact that it is happening is what is baffling me.

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          • emily_s@mastodon.me.ukE emily_s@mastodon.me.uk

            @neil There is exactly one person who gets to decide what happens in my computer. Me.

            If you want to run things in my world, you play by my rules and only my rules.

            Wait Shit. Am I'm turning in to a conservative, I want things to remain how they were twenty years ago... Is this is what they meant about getting more conservative when you get older?

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            @emily_s No, Conservatives want things to remain the same because they control them, change threatens that control. You want to control any changes you make, that is different.

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            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

              @mikecox This is indeed one of the reasons why I am struggling to replace my car at the moment, because I don't want to accept that.

              I might not get what I want.

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              @neil @mikecox I suspect it's going to be hard to disable too as the connection is, I assume, shared with the SOS systems.

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                @thinkb4u @Em0nM4stodon

                The fact that it is happening is what is baffling me.

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                @neil
                Increased Shareholder Value as always.
                @thinkb4u @Em0nM4stodon

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                • aadeacon@mastodon.socialA aadeacon@mastodon.social

                  @emily_s No, Conservatives want things to remain the same because they control them, change threatens that control. You want to control any changes you make, that is different.

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                  @aadeacon But I do currently control my computer, and I want to retain that control... I do not want someone else to take away the control I already have over my things

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                    @Tak Yes, computers.

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                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @Kantikainen @SuperMoosie Yes, and that is fine *while that remains an option*.

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                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                        @slothrop

                        > you're going to wake up and find you’ve become a revolutionary anarchist

                        Wow. I sound *sexy*.

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                        @neil

                        I think we all sound sexy in our own minds?
                        Do we not?
                        😂

                        @slothrop

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                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                          The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.

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                          @neil Build your own OS and no more verification.
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                          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                            The idea that one should be forced to verify one's age or identity to use one's own computer absolutely baffles me.

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                            @neil Haha! got out before this gets a hellthread again!
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                              @zer0unplanned A practical suggestion, thanks!

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                                @jerrymassloII

                                > I believe a distinction is necessary between using a computer as a personal tool and using it as a means of communication

                                I don't!

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                                  @lydiaconwell Well thank goodness for that! 🙂

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                                    @janneke

                                    > Age verification has nothing to do with "using one's own computer", it's about running the software on a [your] computer

                                    And running software on a computer is a form of using it...

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                                      @joostvb Having seen the speed at which some developers started to implement age-related measures in FOSS, I am unconvinced that this will be limited to proprietary software. @janneke

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                                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                        @joostvb Having seen the speed at which some developers started to implement age-related measures in FOSS, I am unconvinced that this will be limited to proprietary software. @janneke

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                                        @joostvb

                                        And that would be a shame, but I think that we are heading towards a rougher environment for all of us who like to use our computers as we wish.

                                        @janneke

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                                          @elle @mntmn @hedders @frameworkcomputer @bunnie

                                          Sadly, I don't think that they apologised for their "big tent" mess up 😞

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